PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Phaedo, who is the narrator of the
dialogue to Echecrates of Phlius. Socrates, Apollodorus, Simmias,
Cebes, Crito and an Attendant of the Prison.
SCENE: The Prison of Socrates.
PLACE OF THE NARRATION: Phlius.
Echecrates: Were you yourself, Phaedo, in the prison with
Socrates on the day when he drank the poison?
Phaedo: Yes, Echecrates, I was.
Echecrates: I should so like to hear about his death. What did
he say in his last hours? We were informed that he died by taking
poison, but no one knew anything more; for no Phliasian ever goes
to Athens now, and it is a long time since any stranger from Athens
has found his way hither; so that we had no clear account.
Phaedo: Did you not hear of the proceedings at the trial?
Echecrates: Yes; some one told us about the trial, and we could
not understand why, having been condemned, he should have been put
to death, not at the time, but long afterwards. What was the reason
of this?
Phaedo: An accident, Echecrates: the stern of the ship which the
Athenians send to Delos happened to have been crowned on the day
before he was tried.
Echecrates: What is this ship?
Phaedo: It is the ship in which, according to Athenian
tradition, Theseus went to Crete when he took with him the fourteen
youths, and was the saviour of them and of himself. And they were
said to have vowed to Apollo at the time, that if they were saved
they would send a yearly mission to Delos. Now this custom still
continues, and the whole period of the voyage to and from Delos,
beginning when the priest of Apollo crowns the stern of the ship,
is a holy season, during which the city is not allowed to be
polluted by public executions; and when the vessel is detained by
contrary winds, the time spent in going and returning is very
considerable. As I was saying, the ship was crowned on the day
before the trial, and this was the reason why Socrates lay in
prison and was not put to death until long after he was
condemned.
Echecrates: What was the manner of his death, Phaedo? What was
said or done? And which of his friends were with him? Or did the
authorities forbid them to be present—so that he had no
friends near him when he died?
Phaedo: No; there were several of them with him.
Echecrates: If you have nothing to do, I wish that you would
tell me what passed, as exactly as you can.
Phaedo: I have nothing at all to do, and will try to gratify
your wish. To be reminded of Socrates is always the greatest
delight to me, whether I speak myself or hear another speak of
him.
Echecrates: You will have listeners who are of the same mind
with you, and I hope that you will be as exact as you can.
Phaedo: I had a singular feeling at being in his company. For I
could hardly believe that I was present at the death of a friend,
and therefore I did not pity him, Echecrates; he died so
fearlessly, and his words and bearing were so noble and gracious,
that to me he appeared blessed. I thought that in going to the
other world he could not be without a divine call, and that he
would be happy, if any man ever was, when he arrived there, and
therefore I did not pity him as might have seemed natural at such
an hour. But I had not the pleasure which I usually feel in
philosophical discourse (for philosophy was the theme of which we
spoke). I was pleased, but in the pleasure there was also a strange
admixture of pain; for I reflected that he was soon to die, and
this double feeling was shared by us all; we were laughing and
weeping by turns, especially the excitable Apollodorus—you
know the sort of man?
Echecrates: Yes.
Phaedo: He was quite beside himself; and I and all of us were
greatly moved.
Echecrates: Who were present?
Phaedo: Of native Athenians there were, besides Apollodorus,
Critobulus and his father Crito, Hermogenes, Epigenes, Aeschines,
Antisthenes; likewise Ctesippus of the deme of Paeania, Menexenus,
and some others; Plato, if I am not mistaken, was ill.
Echecrates: Were there any strangers?
Phaedo: Yes, there were; Simmias the Theban, and Cebes, and
Phaedondes; Euclid and Terpison, who came from Megara.
Echecrates: And was Aristippus there, and Cleombrotus?
Phaedo: No, they were said to be in Aegina.
Echecrates: Any one else?
Phaedo: I think that these were nearly all.
Echecrates: Well, and what did you talk about?
Phaedo: I will begin at the beginning, and endeavour to repeat
the entire conversation. On the previous days we had been in the
habit of assembling early in the morning at the court in which the
trial took place, and which is not far from the prison. There we
used to wait talking with one another until the opening of the
doors (for they were not opened very early); then we went in and
generally passed the day with Socrates. On the last morning we
assembled sooner than usual, having heard on the day before when we
quitted the prison in the evening that the sacred ship had come
from Delos, and so we arranged to meet very early at the accustomed
place. On our arrival the jailer who answered the door, instead of
admitting us, came out and told us to stay until he called us.
‘For the Eleven,’ he said, ‘are now with
Socrates; they are taking off his chains, and giving orders that he
is to die to-day.’ He soon returned and said that we might
come in. On entering we found Socrates just released from chains,
and Xanthippe, whom you know, sitting by him, and holding his child
in her arms. When she saw us she uttered a cry and said, as women
will: ‘O Socrates, this is the last time that either you will
converse with your friends, or they with you.’ Socrates
turned to Crito and said: ‘Crito, let some one take her
home.’ Some of Crito’s people accordingly led her away,
crying out and beating herself. And when she was gone, Socrates,
sitting up on the couch, bent and rubbed his leg, saying, as he was
rubbing: How singular is the thing called pleasure, and how
curiously related to pain, which might be thought to be the
opposite of it; for they are never present to a man at the same
instant, and yet he who pursues either is generally compelled to
take the other; their bodies are two, but they are joined by a
single head. And I cannot help thinking that if Aesop had
remembered them, he would have made a fable about God trying to
reconcile their strife, and how, when he could not, he fastened
their heads together; and this is the reason why when one comes the
other follows, as I know by my own experience now, when after the
pain in my leg which was caused by the chain pleasure appears to
succeed.
Upon this Cebes said: I am glad, Socrates, that you have
mentioned the name of Aesop. For it reminds me of a question which
has been asked by many, and was asked of me only the day before
yesterday by Evenus the poet —he will be sure to ask it
again, and therefore if you would like me to have an answer ready
for him, you may as well tell me what I should say to him:—he
wanted to know why you, who never before wrote a line of poetry,
now that you are in prison are turning Aesop’s fables into
verse, and also composing that hymn in honour of Apollo.
Tell him, Cebes, he replied, what is the truth—that I had
no idea of rivalling him or his poems; to do so, as I knew, would
be no easy task. But I wanted to see whether I could purge away a
scruple which I felt about the meaning of certain dreams. In the
course of my life I have often had intimations in dreams
‘that I should compose music.’ The same dream came to
me sometimes in one form, and sometimes in another, but always
saying the same or nearly the same words: ‘Cultivate and make
music,’ said the dream. And hitherto I had imagined that this
was only intended to exhort and encourage me in the study of
philosophy, which has been the pursuit of my life, and is the
noblest and best of music. The dream was bidding me do what I was
already doing, in the same way that the competitor in a race is
bidden by the spectators to run when he is already running. But I
was not certain of this, for the dream might have meant music in
the popular sense of the word, and being under sentence of death,
and the festival giving me a respite, I thought that it would be
safer for me to satisfy the scruple, and, in obedience to the
dream, to compose a few verses before I departed. And first I made
a hymn in honour of the god of the festival, and then considering
that a poet, if he is really to be a poet, should not only put
together words, but should invent stories, and that I have no
invention, I took some fables of Aesop, which I had ready at hand
and which I knew—they were the first I came upon—and
turned them into verse. Tell this to Evenus, Cebes, and bid him be
of good cheer; say that I would have him come after me if he be a
wise man, and not tarry; and that to-day I am likely to be going,
for the Athenians say that I must.
Simmias said: What a message for such a man! having been a
frequent companion of his I should say that, as far as I know him,
he will never take your advice unless he is obliged.
Why, said Socrates,—is not Evenus a philosopher?
I think that he is, said Simmias.
Then he, or any man who has the spirit of philosophy, will be
willing to die, but he will not take his own life, for that is held
to be unlawful.
Here he changed his position, and put his legs off the couch on
to the ground, and during the rest of the conversation he remained
sitting.
Why do you say, enquired Cebes, that a man ought not to take his
own life, but that the philosopher will be ready to follow the
dying?
Socrates replied: And have you, Cebes and Simmias, who are the
disciples of Philolaus, never heard him speak of this?
Yes, but his language was obscure, Socrates.
My words, too, are only an echo; but there is no reason why I
should not repeat what I have heard: and indeed, as I am going to
another place, it is very meet for me to be thinking and talking of
the nature of the pilgrimage which I am about to make. What can I
do better in the interval between this and the setting of the
sun?
Then tell me, Socrates, why is suicide held to be unlawful? as I
have certainly heard Philolaus, about whom you were just now
asking, affirm when he was staying with us at Thebes: and there are
others who say the same, although I have never understood what was
meant by any of them.
Do not lose heart, replied Socrates, and the day may come when
you will understand. I suppose that you wonder why, when other
things which are evil may be good at certain times and to certain
persons, death is to be the only exception, and why, when a man is
better dead, he is not permitted to be his own benefactor, but must
wait for the hand of another.
Very true, said Cebes, laughing gently and speaking in his
native Boeotian.
I admit the appearance of inconsistency in what I am saying; but
there may not be any real inconsistency after all. There is a
doctrine whispered in secret that man is a prisoner who has no
right to open the door and run away; this is a great mystery which
I do not quite understand. Yet I too believe that the gods are our
guardians, and that we are a possession of theirs. Do you not
agree?
Yes, I quite agree, said Cebes.
And if one of your own possessions, an ox or an ass, for
example, took the liberty of putting himself out of the way when
you had given no intimation of your wish that he should die, would
you not be angry with him, and would you not punish him if you
could?
Certainly, replied Cebes.
Then, if we look at the matter thus, there may be reason in
saying that a man should wait, and not take his own life until God
summons him, as he is now summoning me.
Yes, Socrates, said Cebes, there seems to be truth in what you
say. And yet how can you reconcile this seemingly true belief that
God is our guardian and we his possessions, with the willingness to
die which we were just now attributing to the philosopher? That the
wisest of men should be willing to leave a service in which they
are ruled by the gods who are the best of rulers, is not
reasonable; for surely no wise man thinks that when set at liberty
he can take better care of himself than the gods take of him. A
fool may perhaps think so—he may argue that he had better run
away from his master, not considering that his duty is to remain to
the end, and not to run away from the good, and that there would be
no sense in his running away. The wise man will want to be ever
with him who is better than himself. Now this, Socrates, is the
reverse of what was just now said; for upon this view the wise man
should sorrow and the fool rejoice at passing out of life.
The earnestness of Cebes seemed to please Socrates. Here, said
he, turning to us, is a man who is always inquiring, and is not so
easily convinced by the first thing which he hears.
And certainly, added Simmias, the objection which he is now
making does appear to me to have some force. For what can be the
meaning of a truly wise man wanting to fly away and lightly leave a
master who is better than himself? And I rather imagine that Cebes
is referring to you; he thinks that you are too ready to leave us,
and too ready to leave the gods whom you acknowledge to be our good
masters.
Yes, replied Socrates; there is reason in what you say. And so
you think that I ought to answer your indictment as if I were in a
court?
We should like you to do so, said Simmias.
Then I must try to make a more successful defence before you
than I did when before the judges. For I am quite ready to admit,
Simmias and Cebes, that I ought to be grieved at death, if I were
not persuaded in the first place that I am going to other gods who
are wise and good (of which I am as certain as I can be of any such
matters), and secondly (though I am not so sure of this last) to
men departed, better than those whom I leave behind; and therefore
I do not grieve as I might have done, for I have good hope that
there is yet something remaining for the dead, and as has been said
of old, some far better thing for the good than for the evil.
But do you mean to take away your thoughts with you, Socrates?
said Simmias. Will you not impart them to us?—for they are a
benefit in which we too are entitled to share. Moreover, if you
succeed in convincing us, that will be an answer to the charge
against yourself.
I will do my best, replied Socrates. But you must first let me
hear what Crito wants; he has long been wishing to say something to
me.
Only this, Socrates, replied Crito:—the attendant who is
to give you the poison has been telling me, and he wants me to tell
you, that you are not to talk much, talking, he says, increases
heat, and this is apt to interfere with the action of the poison;
persons who excite themselves are sometimes obliged to take a
second or even a third dose.
Then, said Socrates, let him mind his business and be prepared
to give the poison twice or even thrice if necessary; that is
all.
I knew quite well what you would say, replied Crito; but I was
obliged to satisfy him.
Never mind him, he said.
And now, O my judges, I desire to prove to you that the real
philosopher has reason to be of good cheer when he is about to die,
and that after death he may hope to obtain the greatest good in the
other world. And how this may be, Simmias and Cebes, I will
endeavour to explain. For I deem that the true votary of philosophy
is likely to be misunderstood by other men; they do not perceive
that he is always pursuing death and dying; and if this be so, and
he has had the desire of death all his life long, why when his time
comes should he repine at that which he has been always pursuing
and desiring?
Simmias said laughingly: Though not in a laughing humour, you
have made me laugh, Socrates; for I cannot help thinking that the
many when they hear your words will say how truly you have
described philosophers, and our people at home will likewise say
that the life which philosophers desire is in reality death, and
that they have found them out to be deserving of the death which
they desire.
And they are right, Simmias, in thinking so, with the exception
of the words ‘they have found them out’; for they have
not found out either what is the nature of that death which the
true philosopher deserves, or how he deserves or desires death. But
enough of them:—let us discuss the matter among ourselves: Do
we believe that there is such a thing as death?
To be sure, replied Simmias.
Is it not the separation of soul and body? And to be dead is the
completion of this; when the soul exists in herself, and is
released from the body and the body is released from the soul, what
is this but death?
Just so, he replied.
There is another question, which will probably throw light on
our present inquiry if you and I can agree about it:—Ought
the philosopher to care about the pleasures—if they are to be
called pleasures—of eating and drinking?
Certainly not, answered Simmias.
And what about the pleasures of love—should he care for
them?
By no means.
And will he think much of the other ways of indulging the body,
for example, the acquisition of costly raiment, or sandals, or
other adornments of the body? Instead of caring about them, does he
not rather despise anything more than nature needs? What do you
say?
I should say that the true philosopher would despise them.
Would you not say that he is entirely concerned with the soul
and not with the body? He would like, as far as he can, to get away
from the body and to turn to the soul.
Quite true.
In matters of this sort philosophers, above all other men, may
be observed in every sort of way to dissever the soul from the
communion of the body.
Very true.
Whereas, Simmias, the rest of the world are of opinion that to
him who has no sense of pleasure and no part in bodily pleasure,
life is not worth having; and that he who is indifferent about them
is as good as dead.
That is also true.
What again shall we say of the actual acquirement of
knowledge?—is the body, if invited to share in the enquiry, a
hinderer or a helper? I mean to say, have sight and hearing any
truth in them? Are they not, as the poets are always telling us,
inaccurate witnesses? and yet, if even they are inaccurate and
indistinct, what is to be said of the other senses?—for you
will allow that they are the best of them?
Certainly, he replied.
Then when does the soul attain truth?—for in attempting to
consider anything in company with the body she is obviously
deceived.
True.
Then must not true existence be revealed to her in thought, if
at all?
Yes.
And thought is best when the mind is gathered into herself and
none of these things trouble her—neither sounds nor sights
nor pain nor any pleasure,—when she takes leave of the body,
and has as little as possible to do with it, when she has no bodily
sense or desire, but is aspiring after true being?
Certainly.
And in this the philosopher dishonours the body; his soul runs
away from his body and desires to be alone and by herself?
That is true.
Well, but there is another thing, Simmias: Is there or is there
not an absolute justice?
Assuredly there is.
And an absolute beauty and absolute good?
Of course.
But did you ever behold any of them with your eyes?
Certainly not.
Or did you ever reach them with any other bodily
sense?—and I speak not of these alone, but of absolute
greatness, and health, and strength, and of the essence or true
nature of everything. Has the reality of them ever been perceived
by you through the bodily organs? or rather, is not the nearest
approach to the knowledge of their several natures made by him who
so orders his intellectual vision as to have the most exact
conception of the essence of each thing which he considers?
Certainly.
And he attains to the purest knowledge of them who goes to each
with the mind alone, not introducing or intruding in the act of
thought sight or any other sense together with reason, but with the
very light of the mind in her own clearness searches into the very
truth of each; he who has got rid, as far as he can, of eyes and
ears and, so to speak, of the whole body, these being in his
opinion distracting elements which when they infect the soul hinder
her from acquiring truth and knowledge—who, if not he, is
likely to attain the knowledge of true being?
What you say has a wonderful truth in it, Socrates, replied
Simmias.
And when real philosophers consider all these things, will they
not be led to make a reflection which they will express in words
something like the following? ‘Have we not found,’ they
will say, ‘a path of thought which seems to bring us and our
argument to the conclusion, that while we are in the body, and
while the soul is infected with the evils of the body, our desire
will not be satisfied? and our desire is of the truth. For the body
is a source of endless trouble to us by reason of the mere
requirement of food; and is liable also to diseases which overtake
and impede us in the search after true being: it fills us full of
loves, and lusts, and fears, and fancies of all kinds, and endless
foolery, and in fact, as men say, takes away from us the power of
thinking at all. Whence come wars, and fightings, and factions?
whence but from the body and the lusts of the body? wars are
occasioned by the love of money, and money has to be acquired for
the sake and in the service of the body; and by reason of all these
impediments we have no time to give to philosophy; and, last and
worst of all, even if we are at leisure and betake ourselves to
some speculation, the body is always breaking in upon us, causing
turmoil and confusion in our enquiries, and so amazing us that we
are prevented from seeing the truth. It has been proved to us by
experience that if we would have pure knowledge of anything we must
be quit of the body—the soul in herself must behold things in
themselves: and then we shall attain the wisdom which we desire,
and of which we say that we are lovers, not while we live, but
after death; for if while in company with the body, the soul cannot
have pure knowledge, one of two things follows—either
knowledge is not to be attained at all, or, if at all, after death.
For then, and not till then, the soul will be parted from the body
and exist in herself alone. In this present life, I reckon that we
make the nearest approach to knowledge when we have the least
possible intercourse or communion with the body, and are not
surfeited with the bodily nature, but keep ourselves pure until the
hour when God himself is pleased to release us. And thus having got
rid of the foolishness of the body we shall be pure and hold
converse with the pure, and know of ourselves the clear light
everywhere, which is no other than the light of truth.’ For
the impure are not permitted to approach the pure. These are the
sort of words, Simmias, which the true lovers of knowledge cannot
help saying to one another, and thinking. You would agree; would
you not?
Undoubtedly, Socrates.
But, O my friend, if this is true, there is great reason to hope
that, going whither I go, when I have come to the end of my
journey, I shall attain that which has been the pursuit of my life.
And therefore I go on my way rejoicing, and not I only, but every
other man who believes that his mind has been made ready and that
he is in a manner purified.
Certainly, replied Simmias.
And what is purification but the separation of the soul from the
body, as I was saying before; the habit of the soul gathering and
collecting herself into herself from all sides out of the body; the
dwelling in her own place alone, as in another life, so also in
this, as far as she can;—the release of the soul from the
chains of the body?
Very true, he said.
And this separation and release of the soul from the body is
termed death?
To be sure, he said.
And the true philosophers, and they only, are ever seeking to
release the soul. Is not the separation and release of the soul
from the body their especial study?
That is true.
And, as I was saying at first, there would be a ridiculous
contradiction in men studying to live as nearly as they can in a
state of death, and yet repining when it comes upon them.
Clearly.
And the true philosophers, Simmias, are always occupied in the
practice of dying, wherefore also to them least of all men is death
terrible. Look at the matter thus:—if they have been in every
way the enemies of the body, and are wanting to be alone with the
soul, when this desire of theirs is granted, how inconsistent would
they be if they trembled and repined, instead of rejoicing at their
departure to that place where, when they arrive, they hope to gain
that which in life they desired—and this was wisdom—and
at the same time to be rid of the company of their enemy. Many a
man has been willing to go to the world below animated by the hope
of seeing there an earthly love, or wife, or son, and conversing
with them. And will he who is a true lover of wisdom, and is
strongly persuaded in like manner that only in the world below he
can worthily enjoy her, still repine at death? Will he not depart
with joy? Surely he will, O my friend, if he be a true philosopher.
For he will have a firm conviction that there and there only, he
can find wisdom in her purity. And if this be true, he would be
very absurd, as I was saying, if he were afraid of death.
He would, indeed, replied Simmias.
And when you see a man who is repining at the approach of death,
is not his reluctance a sufficient proof that he is not a lover of
wisdom, but a lover of the body, and probably at the same time a
lover of either money or power, or both?
Quite so, he replied.
And is not courage, Simmias, a quality which is specially
characteristic of the philosopher?
Certainly.
There is temperance again, which even by the vulgar is supposed
to consist in the control and regulation of the passions, and in
the sense of superiority to them—is not temperance a virtue
belonging to those only who despise the body, and who pass their
lives in philosophy?
Most assuredly.
For the courage and temperance of other men, if you will
consider them, are really a contradiction.
How so?
Well, he said, you are aware that death is regarded by men in
general as a great evil.
Very true, he said.
And do not courageous men face death because they are afraid of
yet greater evils?
That is quite true.
Then all but the philosophers are courageous only from fear, and
because they are afraid; and yet that a man should be courageous
from fear, and because he is a coward, is surely a strange
thing.
Very true.
And are not the temperate exactly in the same case? They are
temperate because they are intemperate—which might seem to be
a contradiction, but is nevertheless the sort of thing which
happens with this foolish temperance. For there are pleasures which
they are afraid of losing; and in their desire to keep them, they
abstain from some pleasures, because they are overcome by others;
and although to be conquered by pleasure is called by men
intemperance, to them the conquest of pleasure consists in being
conquered by pleasure. And that is what I mean by saying that, in a
sense, they are made temperate through intemperance.
Such appears to be the case.
Yet the exchange of one fear or pleasure or pain for another
fear or pleasure or pain, and of the greater for the less, as if
they were coins, is not the exchange of virtue. O my blessed
Simmias, is there not one true coin for which all things ought to
be exchanged?—and that is wisdom; and only in exchange for
this, and in company with this, is anything truly bought or sold,
whether courage or temperance or justice. And is not all true
virtue the companion of wisdom, no matter what fears or pleasures
or other similar goods or evils may or may not attend her? But the
virtue which is made up of these goods, when they are severed from
wisdom and exchanged with one another, is a shadow of virtue only,
nor is there any freedom or health or truth in her; but in the true
exchange there is a purging away of all these things, and
temperance, and justice, and courage, and wisdom herself are the
purgation of them. The founders of the mysteries would appear to
have had a real meaning, and were not talking nonsense when they
intimated in a figure long ago that he who passes unsanctified and
uninitiated into the world below will lie in a slough, but that he
who arrives there after initiation and purification will dwell with
the gods. For ‘many,’ as they say in the mysteries,
‘are the thyrsus- bearers, but few are the
mystics,’—meaning, as I interpret the words, ‘the
true philosophers.’ In the number of whom, during my whole
life, I have been seeking, according to my ability, to find a
place;—whether I have sought in a right way or not, and
whether I have succeeded or not, I shall truly know in a little
while, if God will, when I myself arrive in the other
world—such is my belief. And therefore I maintain that I am
right, Simmias and Cebes, in not grieving or repining at parting
from you and my masters in this world, for I believe that I shall
equally find good masters and friends in another world. But most
men do not believe this saying; if then I succeed in convincing you
by my defence better than I did the Athenian judges, it will be
well.
Cebes answered: I agree, Socrates, in the greater part of what
you say. But in what concerns the soul, men are apt to be
incredulous; they fear that when she has left the body her place
may be nowhere, and that on the very day of death she may perish
and come to an end—immediately on her release from the body,
issuing forth dispersed like smoke or air and in her flight
vanishing away into nothingness. If she could only be collected
into herself after she has obtained release from the evils of which
you are speaking, there would be good reason to hope, Socrates,
that what you say is true. But surely it requires a great deal of
argument and many proofs to show that when the man is dead his soul
yet exists, and has any force or intelligence.
True, Cebes, said Socrates; and shall I suggest that we converse
a little of the probabilities of these things?
I am sure, said Cebes, that I should greatly like to know your
opinion about them.
I reckon, said Socrates, that no one who heard me now, not even
if he were one of my old enemies, the Comic poets, could accuse me
of idle talking about matters in which I have no concern:—If
you please, then, we will proceed with the inquiry.
Suppose we consider the question whether the souls of men after
death are or are not in the world below. There comes into my mind
an ancient doctrine which affirms that they go from hence into the
other world, and returning hither, are born again from the dead.
Now if it be true that the living come from the dead, then our
souls must exist in the other world, for if not, how could they
have been born again? And this would be conclusive, if there were
any real evidence that the living are only born from the dead; but
if this is not so, then other arguments will have to be
adduced.
Very true, replied Cebes.
Then let us consider the whole question, not in relation to man
only, but in relation to animals generally, and to plants, and to
everything of which there is generation, and the proof will be
easier. Are not all things which have opposites generated out of
their opposites? I mean such things as good and evil, just and
unjust—and there are innumerable other opposites which are
generated out of opposites. And I want to show that in all
opposites there is of necessity a similar alternation; I mean to
say, for example, that anything which becomes greater must become
greater after being less.
True.
And that which becomes less must have been once greater and then
have become less.
Yes.
And the weaker is generated from the stronger, and the swifter
from the slower.
Very true.
And the worse is from the better, and the more just is from the
more unjust.
Of course.
And is this true of all opposites? and are we convinced that all
of them are generated out of opposites?
Yes.
And in this universal opposition of all things, are there not
also two intermediate processes which are ever going on, from one
to the other opposite, and back again; where there is a greater and
a less there is also an intermediate process of increase and
diminution, and that which grows is said to wax, and that which
decays to wane?
Yes, he said.
And there are many other processes, such as division and
composition, cooling and heating, which equally involve a passage
into and out of one another. And this necessarily holds of all
opposites, even though not always expressed in words—they are
really generated out of one another, and there is a passing or
process from one to the other of them?
Very true, he replied.
Well, and is there not an opposite of life, as sleep is the
opposite of waking?
True, he said.
And what is it?
Death, he answered.
And these, if they are opposites, are generated the one from the
other, and have there their two intermediate processes also?
Of course.
Now, said Socrates, I will analyze one of the two pairs of
opposites which I have mentioned to you, and also its intermediate
processes, and you shall analyze the other to me. One of them I
term sleep, the other waking. The state of sleep is opposed to the
state of waking, and out of sleeping waking is generated, and out
of waking, sleeping; and the process of generation is in the one
case falling asleep, and in the other waking up. Do you agree?
I entirely agree.
Then, suppose that you analyze life and death to me in the same
manner. Is not death opposed to life?
Yes.
And they are generated one from the other?
Yes.
What is generated from the living?
The dead.
And what from the dead?
I can only say in answer—the living.
Then the living, whether things or persons, Cebes, are generated
from the dead?
That is clear, he replied.
Then the inference is that our souls exist in the world
below?
That is true.
And one of the two processes or generations is visible—for
surely the act of dying is visible?
Surely, he said.
What then is to be the result? Shall we exclude the opposite
process? And shall we suppose nature to walk on one leg only? Must
we not rather assign to death some corresponding process of
generation?
Certainly, he replied.
And what is that process?
Return to life.
And return to life, if there be such a thing, is the birth of
the dead into the world of the living?
Quite true.
Then here is a new way by which we arrive at the conclusion that
the living come from the dead, just as the dead come from the
living; and this, if true, affords a most certain proof that the
souls of the dead exist in some place out of which they come
again.
Yes, Socrates, he said; the conclusion seems to flow necessarily
out of our previous admissions.
And that these admissions were not unfair, Cebes, he said, may
be shown, I think, as follows: If generation were in a straight
line only, and there were no compensation or circle in nature, no
turn or return of elements into their opposites, then you know that
all things would at last have the same form and pass into the same
state, and there would be no more generation of them.
What do you mean? he said.
A simple thing enough, which I will illustrate by the case of
sleep, he replied. You know that if there were no alternation of
sleeping and waking, the tale of the sleeping Endymion would in the
end have no meaning, because all other things would be asleep, too,
and he would not be distinguishable from the rest. Or if there were
composition only, and no division of substances, then the chaos of
Anaxagoras would come again. And in like manner, my dear Cebes, if
all things which partook of life were to die, and after they were
dead remained in the form of death, and did not come to life again,
all would at last die, and nothing would be alive—what other
result could there be? For if the living spring from any other
things, and they too die, must not all things at last be swallowed
up in death? (But compare Republic.)
There is no escape, Socrates, said Cebes; and to me your
argument seems to be absolutely true.
Yes, he said, Cebes, it is and must be so, in my opinion; and we
have not been deluded in making these admissions; but I am
confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, and
that the living spring from the dead, and that the souls of the
dead are in existence, and that the good souls have a better
portion than the evil.
Cebes added: Your favorite doctrine, Socrates, that knowledge is
simply recollection, if true, also necessarily implies a previous
time in which we have learned that which we now recollect. But this
would be impossible unless our soul had been in some place before
existing in the form of man; here then is another proof of the
soul’s immortality.
But tell me, Cebes, said Simmias, interposing, what arguments
are urged in favour of this doctrine of recollection. I am not very
sure at the moment that I remember them.
One excellent proof, said Cebes, is afforded by questions. If
you put a question to a person in a right way, he will give a true
answer of himself, but how could he do this unless there were
knowledge and right reason already in him? And this is most clearly
shown when he is taken to a diagram or to anything of that sort.
(Compare Meno.)
But if, said Socrates, you are still incredulous, Simmias, I
would ask you whether you may not agree with me when you look at
the matter in another way;—I mean, if you are still
incredulous as to whether knowledge is recollection.
Incredulous, I am not, said Simmias; but I want to have this
doctrine of recollection brought to my own recollection, and, from
what Cebes has said, I am beginning to recollect and be convinced;
but I should still like to hear what you were going to say.
This is what I would say, he replied:—We should agree, if
I am not mistaken, that what a man recollects he must have known at
some previous time.
Very true.
And what is the nature of this knowledge or recollection? I mean
to ask, Whether a person who, having seen or heard or in any way
perceived anything, knows not only that, but has a conception of
something else which is the subject, not of the same but of some
other kind of knowledge, may not be fairly said to recollect that
of which he has the conception?
What do you mean?
I mean what I may illustrate by the following
instance:—The knowledge of a lyre is not the same as the
knowledge of a man?
True.
And yet what is the feeling of lovers when they recognize a
lyre, or a garment, or anything else which the beloved has been in
the habit of using? Do not they, from knowing the lyre, form in the
mind’s eye an image of the youth to whom the lyre belongs?
And this is recollection. In like manner any one who sees Simmias
may remember Cebes; and there are endless examples of the same
thing.
Endless, indeed, replied Simmias.
And recollection is most commonly a process of recovering that
which has been already forgotten through time and inattention.
Very true, he said.
Well; and may you not also from seeing the picture of a horse or
a lyre remember a man? and from the picture of Simmias, you may be
led to remember Cebes?
True.
Or you may also be led to the recollection of Simmias
himself?
Quite so.
And in all these cases, the recollection may be derived from
things either like or unlike?
It may be.
And when the recollection is derived from like things, then
another consideration is sure to arise, which is—whether the
likeness in any degree falls short or not of that which is
recollected?
Very true, he said.
And shall we proceed a step further, and affirm that there is
such a thing as equality, not of one piece of wood or stone with
another, but that, over and above this, there is absolute equality?
Shall we say so?
Say so, yes, replied Simmias, and swear to it, with all the
confidence in life.
And do we know the nature of this absolute essence?
To be sure, he said.
And whence did we obtain our knowledge? Did we not see
equalities of material things, such as pieces of wood and stones,
and gather from them the idea of an equality which is different
from them? For you will acknowledge that there is a difference. Or
look at the matter in another way:—Do not the same pieces of
wood or stone appear at one time equal, and at another time
unequal?
That is certain.
But are real equals ever unequal? or is the idea of equality the
same as of inequality?
Impossible, Socrates.
Then these (so-called) equals are not the same with the idea of
equality?
I should say, clearly not, Socrates.
And yet from these equals, although differing from the idea of
equality, you conceived and attained that idea?
Very true, he said.
Which might be like, or might be unlike them?
Yes.
But that makes no difference; whenever from seeing one thing you
conceived another, whether like or unlike, there must surely have
been an act of recollection?
Very true.
But what would you say of equal portions of wood and stone, or
other material equals? and what is the impression produced by them?
Are they equals in the same sense in which absolute equality is
equal? or do they fall short of this perfect equality in a
measure?
Yes, he said, in a very great measure too.
And must we not allow, that when I or any one, looking at any
object, observes that the thing which he sees aims at being some
other thing, but falls short of, and cannot be, that other thing,
but is inferior, he who makes this observation must have had a
previous knowledge of that to which the other, although similar,
was inferior?
Certainly.
And has not this been our own case in the matter of equals and
of absolute equality?
Precisely.
Then we must have known equality previously to the time when we
first saw the material equals, and reflected that all these
apparent equals strive to attain absolute equality, but fall short
of it?
Very true.
And we recognize also that this absolute equality has only been
known, and can only be known, through the medium of sight or touch,
or of some other of the senses, which are all alike in this
respect?
Yes, Socrates, as far as the argument is concerned, one of them
is the same as the other.
From the senses then is derived the knowledge that all sensible
things aim at an absolute equality of which they fall short?
Yes.
Then before we began to see or hear or perceive in any way, we
must have had a knowledge of absolute equality, or we could not
have referred to that standard the equals which are derived from
the senses?—for to that they all aspire, and of that they
fall short.
No other inference can be drawn from the previous
statements.
And did we not see and hear and have the use of our other senses
as soon as we were born?
Certainly.
Then we must have acquired the knowledge of equality at some
previous time?
Yes.
That is to say, before we were born, I suppose?
True.
And if we acquired this knowledge before we were born, and were
born having the use of it, then we also knew before we were born
and at the instant of birth not only the equal or the greater or
the less, but all other ideas; for we are not speaking only of
equality, but of beauty, goodness, justice, holiness, and of all
which we stamp with the name of essence in the dialectical process,
both when we ask and when we answer questions. Of all this we may
certainly affirm that we acquired the knowledge before birth?
We may.
But if, after having acquired, we have not forgotten what in
each case we acquired, then we must always have come into life
having knowledge, and shall always continue to know as long as life
lasts—for knowing is the acquiring and retaining knowledge
and not forgetting. Is not forgetting, Simmias, just the losing of
knowledge?
Quite true, Socrates.
But if the knowledge which we acquired before birth was lost by
us at birth, and if afterwards by the use of the senses we
recovered what we previously knew, will not the process which we
call learning be a recovering of the knowledge which is natural to
us, and may not this be rightly termed recollection?
Very true.
So much is clear—that when we perceive something, either
by the help of sight, or hearing, or some other sense, from that
perception we are able to obtain a notion of some other thing like
or unlike which is associated with it but has been forgotten.
Whence, as I was saying, one of two alternatives
follows:—either we had this knowledge at birth, and continued
to know through life; or, after birth, those who are said to learn
only remember, and learning is simply recollection.
Yes, that is quite true, Socrates.
And which alternative, Simmias, do you prefer? Had we the
knowledge at our birth, or did we recollect the things which we
knew previously to our birth?
I cannot decide at the moment.
At any rate you can decide whether he who has knowledge will or
will not be able to render an account of his knowledge? What do you
say?
Certainly, he will.
But do you think that every man is able to give an account of
these very matters about which we are speaking?
Would that they could, Socrates, but I rather fear that
to-morrow, at this time, there will no longer be any one alive who
is able to give an account of them such as ought to be given.
Then you are not of opinion, Simmias, that all men know these
things?
Certainly not.
They are in process of recollecting that which they learned
before?
Certainly.
But when did our souls acquire this knowledge?—not since
we were born as men?
Certainly not.
And therefore, previously?
Yes.
Then, Simmias, our souls must also have existed without bodies
before they were in the form of man, and must have had
intelligence.
Unless indeed you suppose, Socrates, that these notions are
given us at the very moment of birth; for this is the only time
which remains.
Yes, my friend, but if so, when do we lose them? for they are
not in us when we are born—that is admitted. Do we lose them
at the moment of receiving them, or if not at what other time?
No, Socrates, I perceive that I was unconsciously talking
nonsense.
Then may we not say, Simmias, that if, as we are always
repeating, there is an absolute beauty, and goodness, and an
absolute essence of all things; and if to this, which is now
discovered to have existed in our former state, we refer all our
sensations, and with this compare them, finding these ideas to be
pre-existent and our inborn possession—then our souls must
have had a prior existence, but if not, there would be no force in
the argument? There is the same proof that these ideas must have
existed before we were born, as that our souls existed before we
were born; and if not the ideas, then not the souls.
Yes, Socrates; I am convinced that there is precisely the same
necessity for the one as for the other; and the argument retreats
successfully to the position that the existence of the soul before
birth cannot be separated from the existence of the essence of
which you speak. For there is nothing which to my mind is so patent
as that beauty, goodness, and the other notions of which you were
just now speaking, have a most real and absolute existence; and I
am satisfied with the proof.
Well, but is Cebes equally satisfied? for I must convince him
too.
I think, said Simmias, that Cebes is satisfied: although he is
the most incredulous of mortals, yet I believe that he is
sufficiently convinced of the existence of the soul before birth.
But that after death the soul will continue to exist is not yet
proven even to my own satisfaction. I cannot get rid of the feeling
of the many to which Cebes was referring—the feeling that
when the man dies the soul will be dispersed, and that this may be
the extinction of her. For admitting that she may have been born
elsewhere, and framed out of other elements, and was in existence
before entering the human body, why after having entered in and
gone out again may she not herself be destroyed and come to an
end?
Very true, Simmias, said Cebes; about half of what was required
has been proven; to wit, that our souls existed before we were
born:—that the soul will exist after death as well as before
birth is the other half of which the proof is still wanting, and
has to be supplied; when that is given the demonstration will be
complete.
But that proof, Simmias and Cebes, has been already given, said
Socrates, if you put the two arguments together—I mean this
and the former one, in which we admitted that everything living is
born of the dead. For if the soul exists before birth, and in
coming to life and being born can be born only from death and
dying, must she not after death continue to exist, since she has to
be born again?—Surely the proof which you desire has been
already furnished. Still I suspect that you and Simmias would be
glad to probe the argument further. Like children, you are haunted
with a fear that when the soul leaves the body, the wind may really
blow her away and scatter her; especially if a man should happen to
die in a great storm and not when the sky is calm.
Cebes answered with a smile: Then, Socrates, you must argue us
out of our fears—and yet, strictly speaking, they are not our
fears, but there is a child within us to whom death is a sort of
hobgoblin; him too we must persuade not to be afraid when he is
alone in the dark.
Socrates said: Let the voice of the charmer be applied daily
until you have charmed away the fear.
And where shall we find a good charmer of our fears, Socrates,
when you are gone?
Hellas, he replied, is a large place, Cebes, and has many good
men, and there are barbarous races not a few: seek for him among
them all, far and wide, sparing neither pains nor money; for there
is no better way of spending your money. And you must seek among
yourselves too; for you will not find others better able to make
the search.
The search, replied Cebes, shall certainly be made. And now, if
you please, let us return to the point of the argument at which we
digressed.
By all means, replied Socrates; what else should I please?
Very good.
Must we not, said Socrates, ask ourselves what that is which, as
we imagine, is liable to be scattered, and about which we fear? and
what again is that about which we have no fear? And then we may
proceed further to enquire whether that which suffers dispersion is
or is not of the nature of soul—our hopes and fears as to our
own souls will turn upon the answers to these questions.
Very true, he said.
Now the compound or composite may be supposed to be naturally
capable, as of being compounded, so also of being dissolved; but
that which is uncompounded, and that only, must be, if anything is,
indissoluble.
Yes; I should imagine so, said Cebes.
And the uncompounded may be assumed to be the same and
unchanging, whereas the compound is always changing and never the
same.
I agree, he said.
Then now let us return to the previous discussion. Is that idea
or essence, which in the dialectical process we define as essence
or true existence—whether essence of equality, beauty, or
anything else—are these essences, I say, liable at times to
some degree of change? or are they each of them always what they
are, having the same simple self-existent and unchanging forms, not
admitting of variation at all, or in any way, or at any time?
They must be always the same, Socrates, replied Cebes.
And what would you say of the many beautiful—whether men
or horses or garments or any other things which are named by the
same names and may be called equal or beautiful,—are they all
unchanging and the same always, or quite the reverse? May they not
rather be described as almost always changing and hardly ever the
same, either with themselves or with one another?
The latter, replied Cebes; they are always in a state of
change.
And these you can touch and see and perceive with the senses,
but the unchanging things you can only perceive with the
mind—they are invisible and are not seen?
That is very true, he said.
Well, then, added Socrates, let us suppose that there are two
sorts of existences—one seen, the other unseen.
Let us suppose them.
The seen is the changing, and the unseen is the unchanging?
That may be also supposed.
And, further, is not one part of us body, another part soul?
To be sure.
And to which class is the body more alike and akin?
Clearly to the seen—no one can doubt that.
And is the soul seen or not seen?
Not by man, Socrates.
And what we mean by ‘seen’ and ‘not
seen’ is that which is or is not visible to the eye of
man?
Yes, to the eye of man.
And is the soul seen or not seen?
Not seen.
Unseen then?
Yes.
Then the soul is more like to the unseen, and the body to the
seen?
That follows necessarily, Socrates.
And were we not saying long ago that the soul when using the
body as an instrument of perception, that is to say, when using the
sense of sight or hearing or some other sense (for the meaning of
perceiving through the body is perceiving through the
senses)—were we not saying that the soul too is then dragged
by the body into the region of the changeable, and wanders and is
confused; the world spins round her, and she is like a drunkard,
when she touches change?
Very true.
But when returning into herself she reflects, then she passes
into the other world, the region of purity, and eternity, and
immortality, and unchangeableness, which are her kindred, and with
them she ever lives, when she is by herself and is not let or
hindered; then she ceases from her erring ways, and being in
communion with the unchanging is unchanging. And this state of the
soul is called wisdom?
That is well and truly said, Socrates, he replied.
And to which class is the soul more nearly alike and akin, as
far as may be inferred from this argument, as well as from the
preceding one?
I think, Socrates, that, in the opinion of every one who follows
the argument, the soul will be infinitely more like the
unchangeable—even the most stupid person will not deny
that.
And the body is more like the changing?
Yes.
Yet once more consider the matter in another light: When the
soul and the body are united, then nature orders the soul to rule
and govern, and the body to obey and serve. Now which of these two
functions is akin to the divine? and which to the mortal? Does not
the divine appear to you to be that which naturally orders and
rules, and the mortal to be that which is subject and servant?
True.
And which does the soul resemble?
The soul resembles the divine, and the body the
mortal—there can be no doubt of that, Socrates.
Then reflect, Cebes: of all which has been said is not this the
conclusion?—that the soul is in the very likeness of the
divine, and immortal, and intellectual, and uniform, and
indissoluble, and unchangeable; and that the body is in the very
likeness of the human, and mortal, and unintellectual, and
multiform, and dissoluble, and changeable. Can this, my dear Cebes,
be denied?
It cannot.
But if it be true, then is not the body liable to speedy
dissolution? and is not the soul almost or altogether
indissoluble?
Certainly.
And do you further observe, that after a man is dead, the body,
or visible part of him, which is lying in the visible world, and is
called a corpse, and would naturally be dissolved and decomposed
and dissipated, is not dissolved or decomposed at once, but may
remain for a for some time, nay even for a long time, if the
constitution be sound at the time of death, and the season of the
year favourable? For the body when shrunk and embalmed, as the
manner is in Egypt, may remain almost entire through infinite ages;
and even in decay, there are still some portions, such as the bones
and ligaments, which are practically indestructible:—Do you
agree?
Yes.
And is it likely that the soul, which is invisible, in passing
to the place of the true Hades, which like her is invisible, and
pure, and noble, and on her way to the good and wise God, whither,
if God will, my soul is also soon to go,—that the soul, I
repeat, if this be her nature and origin, will be blown away and
destroyed immediately on quitting the body, as the many say? That
can never be, my dear Simmias and Cebes. The truth rather is, that
the soul which is pure at departing and draws after her no bodily
taint, having never voluntarily during life had connection with the
body, which she is ever avoiding, herself gathered into
herself;—and making such abstraction her perpetual
study—which means that she has been a true disciple of
philosophy; and therefore has in fact been always engaged in the
practice of dying? For is not philosophy the practice of
death?—
Certainly—
That soul, I say, herself invisible, departs to the invisible
world—to the divine and immortal and rational: thither
arriving, she is secure of bliss and is released from the error and
folly of men, their fears and wild passions and all other human
ills, and for ever dwells, as they say of the initiated, in company
with the gods (compare Apol.). Is not this true, Cebes?
Yes, said Cebes, beyond a doubt.
But the soul which has been polluted, and is impure at the time
of her departure, and is the companion and servant of the body
always, and is in love with and fascinated by the body and by the
desires and pleasures of the body, until she is led to believe that
the truth only exists in a bodily form, which a man may touch and
see and taste, and use for the purposes of his lusts,—the
soul, I mean, accustomed to hate and fear and avoid the
intellectual principle, which to the bodily eye is dark and
invisible, and can be attained only by philosophy;—do you
suppose that such a soul will depart pure and unalloyed?
Impossible, he replied.
She is held fast by the corporeal, which the continual
association and constant care of the body have wrought into her
nature.
Very true.
And this corporeal element, my friend, is heavy and weighty and
earthy, and is that element of sight by which a soul is depressed
and dragged down again into the visible world, because she is
afraid of the invisible and of the world below—prowling about
tombs and sepulchres, near which, as they tell us, are seen certain
ghostly apparitions of souls which have not departed pure, but are
cloyed with sight and therefore visible.
(Compare Milton, Comus:—
‘But when lust, By unchaste looks, loose gestures, and
foul talk, But most by lewd and lavish act of sin, Lets in
defilement to the inward parts, The soul grows clotted by
contagion, Imbodies, and imbrutes, till she quite lose, The divine
property of her first being. Such are those thick and gloomy
shadows damp Oft seen in charnel vaults and sepulchres, Lingering,
and sitting by a new made grave, As loath to leave the body that it
lov’d, And linked itself by carnal sensuality To a degenerate
and degraded state.’)
That is very likely, Socrates.
Yes, that is very likely, Cebes; and these must be the souls,
not of the good, but of the evil, which are compelled to wander
about such places in payment of the penalty of their former evil
way of life; and they continue to wander until through the craving
after the corporeal which never leaves them, they are imprisoned
finally in another body. And they may be supposed to find their
prisons in the same natures which they have had in their former
lives.
What natures do you mean, Socrates?
What I mean is that men who have followed after gluttony, and
wantonness, and drunkenness, and have had no thought of avoiding
them, would pass into asses and animals of that sort. What do you
think?
I think such an opinion to be exceedingly probable.
And those who have chosen the portion of injustice, and tyranny,
and violence, will pass into wolves, or into hawks and
kites;—whither else can we suppose them to go?
Yes, said Cebes; with such natures, beyond question.
And there is no difficulty, he said, in assigning to all of them
places answering to their several natures and propensities?
There is not, he said.
Some are happier than others; and the happiest both in
themselves and in the place to which they go are those who have
practised the civil and social virtues which are called temperance
and justice, and are acquired by habit and attention without
philosophy and mind. (Compare Republic.)
Why are they the happiest?
Because they may be expected to pass into some gentle and social
kind which is like their own, such as bees or wasps or ants, or
back again into the form of man, and just and moderate men may be
supposed to spring from them.
Very likely.
No one who has not studied philosophy and who is not entirely
pure at the time of his departure is allowed to enter the company
of the Gods, but the lover of knowledge only. And this is the
reason, Simmias and Cebes, why the true votaries of philosophy
abstain from all fleshly lusts, and hold out against them and
refuse to give themselves up to them,—not because they fear
poverty or the ruin of their families, like the lovers of money,
and the world in general; nor like the lovers of power and honour,
because they dread the dishonour or disgrace of evil deeds.
No, Socrates, that would not become them, said Cebes.
No indeed, he replied; and therefore they who have any care of
their own souls, and do not merely live moulding and fashioning the
body, say farewell to all this; they will not walk in the ways of
the blind: and when philosophy offers them purification and release
from evil, they feel that they ought not to resist her influence,
and whither she leads they turn and follow.
What do you mean, Socrates?
I will tell you, he said. The lovers of knowledge are conscious
that the soul was simply fastened and glued to the body—until
philosophy received her, she could only view real existence through
the bars of a prison, not in and through herself; she was wallowing
in the mire of every sort of ignorance; and by reason of lust had
become the principal accomplice in her own captivity. This was her
original state; and then, as I was saying, and as the lovers of
knowledge are well aware, philosophy, seeing how terrible was her
confinement, of which she was to herself the cause, received and
gently comforted her and sought to release her, pointing out that
the eye and the ear and the other senses are full of deception, and
persuading her to retire from them, and abstain from all but the
necessary use of them, and be gathered up and collected into
herself, bidding her trust in herself and her own pure apprehension
of pure existence, and to mistrust whatever comes to her through
other channels and is subject to variation; for such things are
visible and tangible, but what she sees in her own nature is
intelligible and invisible. And the soul of the true philosopher
thinks that she ought not to resist this deliverance, and therefore
abstains from pleasures and desires and pains and fears, as far as
she is able; reflecting that when a man has great joys or sorrows
or fears or desires, he suffers from them, not merely the sort of
evil which might be anticipated—as for example, the loss of
his health or property which he has sacrificed to his
lusts—but an evil greater far, which is the greatest and
worst of all evils, and one of which he never thinks.
What is it, Socrates? said Cebes.
The evil is that when the feeling of pleasure or pain is most
intense, every soul of man imagines the objects of this intense
feeling to be then plainest and truest: but this is not so, they
are really the things of sight.
Very true.
And is not this the state in which the soul is most enthralled
by the body?
How so?
Why, because each pleasure and pain is a sort of nail which
nails and rivets the soul to the body, until she becomes like the
body, and believes that to be true which the body affirms to be
true; and from agreeing with the body and having the same delights
she is obliged to have the same habits and haunts, and is not
likely ever to be pure at her departure to the world below, but is
always infected by the body; and so she sinks into another body and
there germinates and grows, and has therefore no part in the
communion of the divine and pure and simple.
Most true, Socrates, answered Cebes.
And this, Cebes, is the reason why the true lovers of knowledge
are temperate and brave; and not for the reason which the world
gives.
Certainly not.
Certainly not! The soul of a philosopher will reason in quite
another way; she will not ask philosophy to release her in order
that when released she may deliver herself up again to the thraldom
of pleasures and pains, doing a work only to be undone again,
weaving instead of unweaving her Penelope’s web. But she will
calm passion, and follow reason, and dwell in the contemplation of
her, beholding the true and divine (which is not matter of
opinion), and thence deriving nourishment. Thus she seeks to live
while she lives, and after death she hopes to go to her own kindred
and to that which is like her, and to be freed from human ills.
Never fear, Simmias and Cebes, that a soul which has been thus
nurtured and has had these pursuits, will at her departure from the
body be scattered and blown away by the winds and be nowhere and
nothing.
When Socrates had done speaking, for a considerable time there
was silence; he himself appeared to be meditating, as most of us
were, on what had been said; only Cebes and Simmias spoke a few
words to one another. And Socrates observing them asked what they
thought of the argument, and whether there was anything wanting?
For, said he, there are many points still open to suspicion and
attack, if any one were disposed to sift the matter thoroughly.
Should you be considering some other matter I say no more, but if
you are still in doubt do not hesitate to say exactly what you
think, and let us have anything better which you can suggest; and
if you think that I can be of any use, allow me to help you.
Simmias said: I must confess, Socrates, that doubts did arise in
our minds, and each of us was urging and inciting the other to put
the question which we wanted to have answered and which neither of
us liked to ask, fearing that our importunity might be troublesome
under present at such a time.
Socrates replied with a smile: O Simmias, what are you saying? I
am not very likely to persuade other men that I do not regard my
present situation as a misfortune, if I cannot even persuade you
that I am no worse off now than at any other time in my life. Will
you not allow that I have as much of the spirit of prophecy in me
as the swans? For they, when they perceive that they must die,
having sung all their life long, do then sing more lustily than
ever, rejoicing in the thought that they are about to go away to
the god whose ministers they are. But men, because they are
themselves afraid of death, slanderously affirm of the swans that
they sing a lament at the last, not considering that no bird sings
when cold, or hungry, or in pain, not even the nightingale, nor the
swallow, nor yet the hoopoe; which are said indeed to tune a lay of
sorrow, although I do not believe this to be true of them any more
than of the swans. But because they are sacred to Apollo, they have
the gift of prophecy, and anticipate the good things of another
world, wherefore they sing and rejoice in that day more than they
ever did before. And I too, believing myself to be the consecrated
servant of the same God, and the fellow-servant of the swans, and
thinking that I have received from my master gifts of prophecy
which are not inferior to theirs, would not go out of life less
merrily than the swans. Never mind then, if this be your only
objection, but speak and ask anything which you like, while the
eleven magistrates of Athens allow.
Very good, Socrates, said Simmias; then I will tell you my
difficulty, and Cebes will tell you his. I feel myself, (and I
daresay that you have the same feeling), how hard or rather
impossible is the attainment of any certainty about questions such
as these in the present life. And yet I should deem him a coward
who did not prove what is said about them to the uttermost, or
whose heart failed him before he had examined them on every side.
For he should persevere until he has achieved one of two things:
either he should discover, or be taught the truth about them; or,
if this be impossible, I would have him take the best and most
irrefragable of human theories, and let this be the raft upon which
he sails through life— not without risk, as I admit, if he
cannot find some word of God which will more surely and safely
carry him. And now, as you bid me, I will venture to question you,
and then I shall not have to reproach myself hereafter with not
having said at the time what I think. For when I consider the
matter, either alone or with Cebes, the argument does certainly
appear to me, Socrates, to be not sufficient.
Socrates answered: I dare say, my friend, that you may be right,
but I should like to know in what respect the argument is
insufficient.
In this respect, replied Simmias:—Suppose a person to use
the same argument about harmony and the lyre—might he not say
that harmony is a thing invisible, incorporeal, perfect, divine,
existing in the lyre which is harmonized, but that the lyre and the
strings are matter and material, composite, earthy, and akin to
mortality? And when some one breaks the lyre, or cuts and rends the
strings, then he who takes this view would argue as you do, and on
the same analogy, that the harmony survives and has not
perished—you cannot imagine, he would say, that the lyre
without the strings, and the broken strings themselves which are
mortal remain, and yet that the harmony, which is of heavenly and
immortal nature and kindred, has perished—perished before the
mortal. The harmony must still be somewhere, and the wood and
strings will decay before anything can happen to that. The thought,
Socrates, must have occurred to your own mind that such is our
conception of the soul; and that when the body is in a manner
strung and held together by the elements of hot and cold, wet and
dry, then the soul is the harmony or due proportionate admixture of
them. But if so, whenever the strings of the body are unduly
loosened or overstrained through disease or other injury, then the
soul, though most divine, like other harmonies of music or of works
of art, of course perishes at once, although the material remains
of the body may last for a considerable time, until they are either
decayed or burnt. And if any one maintains that the soul, being the
harmony of the elements of the body, is first to perish in that
which is called death, how shall we answer him?
Socrates looked fixedly at us as his manner was, and said with a
smile: Simmias has reason on his side; and why does not some one of
you who is better able than myself answer him? for there is force
in his attack upon me. But perhaps, before we answer him, we had
better also hear what Cebes has to say that we may gain time for
reflection, and when they have both spoken, we may either assent to
them, if there is truth in what they say, or if not, we will
maintain our position. Please to tell me then, Cebes, he said, what
was the difficulty which troubled you?
Cebes said: I will tell you. My feeling is that the argument is
where it was, and open to the same objections which were urged
before; for I am ready to admit that the existence of the soul
before entering into the bodily form has been very ingeniously,
and, if I may say so, quite sufficiently proven; but the existence
of the soul after death is still, in my judgment, unproven. Now my
objection is not the same as that of Simmias; for I am not disposed
to deny that the soul is stronger and more lasting than the body,
being of opinion that in all such respects the soul very far excels
the body. Well, then, says the argument to me, why do you remain
unconvinced?—When you see that the weaker continues in
existence after the man is dead, will you not admit that the more
lasting must also survive during the same period of time? Now I
will ask you to consider whether the objection, which, like
Simmias, I will express in a figure, is of any weight. The analogy
which I will adduce is that of an old weaver, who dies, and after
his death somebody says:—He is not dead, he must be
alive;—see, there is the coat which he himself wove and wore,
and which remains whole and undecayed. And then he proceeds to ask
of some one who is incredulous, whether a man lasts longer, or the
coat which is in use and wear; and when he is answered that a man
lasts far longer, thinks that he has thus certainly demonstrated
the survival of the man, who is the more lasting, because the less
lasting remains. But that, Simmias, as I would beg you to remark,
is a mistake; any one can see that he who talks thus is talking
nonsense. For the truth is, that the weaver aforesaid, having woven
and worn many such coats, outlived several of them, and was
outlived by the last; but a man is not therefore proved to be
slighter and weaker than a coat. Now the relation of the body to
the soul may be expressed in a similar figure; and any one may very
fairly say in like manner that the soul is lasting, and the body
weak and shortlived in comparison. He may argue in like manner that
every soul wears out many bodies, especially if a man live many
years. While he is alive the body deliquesces and decays, and the
soul always weaves another garment and repairs the waste. But of
course, whenever the soul perishes, she must have on her last
garment, and this will survive her; and then at length, when the
soul is dead, the body will show its native weakness, and quickly
decompose and pass away. I would therefore rather not rely on the
argument from superior strength to prove the continued existence of
the soul after death. For granting even more than you affirm to be
possible, and acknowledging not only that the soul existed before
birth, but also that the souls of some exist, and will continue to
exist after death, and will be born and die again and again, and
that there is a natural strength in the soul which will hold out
and be born many times—nevertheless, we may be still inclined
to think that she will weary in the labours of successive births,
and may at last succumb in one of her deaths and utterly perish;
and this death and dissolution of the body which brings destruction
to the soul may be unknown to any of us, for no one of us can have
had any experience of it: and if so, then I maintain that he who is
confident about death has but a foolish confidence, unless he is
able to prove that the soul is altogether immortal and
imperishable. But if he cannot prove the soul’s immortality,
he who is about to die will always have reason to fear that when
the body is disunited, the soul also may utterly perish.
All of us, as we afterwards remarked to one another, had an
unpleasant feeling at hearing what they said. When we had been so
firmly convinced before, now to have our faith shaken seemed to
introduce a confusion and uncertainty, not only into the previous
argument, but into any future one; either we were incapable of
forming a judgment, or there were no grounds of belief.
Echecrates: There I feel with you—by heaven I do, Phaedo,
and when you were speaking, I was beginning to ask myself the same
question: What argument can I ever trust again? For what could be
more convincing than the argument of Socrates, which has now fallen
into discredit? That the soul is a harmony is a doctrine which has
always had a wonderful attraction for me, and, when mentioned, came
back to me at once, as my own original conviction. And now I must
begin again and find another argument which will assure me that
when the man is dead the soul survives. Tell me, I implore you, how
did Socrates proceed? Did he appear to share the unpleasant feeling
which you mention? or did he calmly meet the attack? And did he
answer forcibly or feebly? Narrate what passed as exactly as you
can.
Phaedo: Often, Echecrates, I have wondered at Socrates, but
never more than on that occasion. That he should be able to answer
was nothing, but what astonished me was, first, the gentle and
pleasant and approving manner in which he received the words of the
young men, and then his quick sense of the wound which had been
inflicted by the argument, and the readiness with which he healed
it. He might be compared to a general rallying his defeated and
broken army, urging them to accompany him and return to the field
of argument.
Echecrates: What followed?
Phaedo: You shall hear, for I was close to him on his right
hand, seated on a sort of stool, and he on a couch which was a good
deal higher. He stroked my head, and pressed the hair upon my
neck—he had a way of playing with my hair; and then he said:
To-morrow, Phaedo, I suppose that these fair locks of yours will be
severed.
Yes, Socrates, I suppose that they will, I replied.
Not so, if you will take my advice.
What shall I do with them? I said.
To-day, he replied, and not to-morrow, if this argument dies and
we cannot bring it to life again, you and I will both shave our
locks; and if I were you, and the argument got away from me, and I
could not hold my ground against Simmias and Cebes, I would myself
take an oath, like the Argives, not to wear hair any more until I
had renewed the conflict and defeated them.
Yes, I said, but Heracles himself is said not to be a match for
two.
Summon me then, he said, and I will be your Iolaus until the sun
goes down.
I summon you rather, I rejoined, not as Heracles summoning
Iolaus, but as Iolaus might summon Heracles.
That will do as well, he said. But first let us take care that
we avoid a danger.
Of what nature? I said.
Lest we become misologists, he replied, no worse thing can
happen to a man than this. For as there are misanthropists or
haters of men, there are also misologists or haters of ideas, and
both spring from the same cause, which is ignorance of the world.
Misanthropy arises out of the too great confidence of
inexperience;—you trust a man and think him altogether true
and sound and faithful, and then in a little while he turns out to
be false and knavish; and then another and another, and when this
has happened several times to a man, especially when it happens
among those whom he deems to be his own most trusted and familiar
friends, and he has often quarreled with them, he at last hates all
men, and believes that no one has any good in him at all. You must
have observed this trait of character?
I have.
And is not the feeling discreditable? Is it not obvious that
such an one having to deal with other men, was clearly without any
experience of human nature; for experience would have taught him
the true state of the case, that few are the good and few the evil,
and that the great majority are in the interval between them.
What do you mean? I said.
I mean, he replied, as you might say of the very large and very
small, that nothing is more uncommon than a very large or very
small man; and this applies generally to all extremes, whether of
great and small, or swift and slow, or fair and foul, or black and
white: and whether the instances you select be men or dogs or
anything else, few are the extremes, but many are in the mean
between them. Did you never observe this?
Yes, I said, I have.
And do you not imagine, he said, that if there were a
competition in evil, the worst would be found to be very few?
Yes, that is very likely, I said.
Yes, that is very likely, he replied; although in this respect
arguments are unlike men—there I was led on by you to say
more than I had intended; but the point of comparison was, that
when a simple man who has no skill in dialectics believes an
argument to be true which he afterwards imagines to be false,
whether really false or not, and then another and another, he has
no longer any faith left, and great disputers, as you know, come to
think at last that they have grown to be the wisest of mankind; for
they alone perceive the utter unsoundness and instability of all
arguments, or indeed, of all things, which, like the currents in
the Euripus, are going up and down in never-ceasing ebb and
flow.
That is quite true, I said.
Yes, Phaedo, he replied, and how melancholy, if there be such a
thing as truth or certainty or possibility of knowledge—that
a man should have lighted upon some argument or other which at
first seemed true and then turned out to be false, and instead of
blaming himself and his own want of wit, because he is annoyed,
should at last be too glad to transfer the blame from himself to
arguments in general: and for ever afterwards should hate and
revile them, and lose truth and the knowledge of realities.
Yes, indeed, I said; that is very melancholy.
Let us then, in the first place, he said, be careful of allowing
or of admitting into our souls the notion that there is no health
or soundness in any arguments at all. Rather say that we have not
yet attained to soundness in ourselves, and that we must struggle
manfully and do our best to gain health of mind—you and all
other men having regard to the whole of your future life, and I
myself in the prospect of death. For at this moment I am sensible
that I have not the temper of a philosopher; like the vulgar, I am
only a partisan. Now the partisan, when he is engaged in a dispute,
cares nothing about the rights of the question, but is anxious only
to convince his hearers of his own assertions. And the difference
between him and me at the present moment is merely this—that
whereas he seeks to convince his hearers that what he says is true,
I am rather seeking to convince myself; to convince my hearers is a
secondary matter with me. And do but see how much I gain by the
argument. For if what I say is true, then I do well to be persuaded
of the truth, but if there be nothing after death, still, during
the short time that remains, I shall not distress my friends with
lamentations, and my ignorance will not last, but will die with me,
and therefore no harm will be done. This is the state of mind,
Simmias and Cebes, in which I approach the argument. And I would
ask you to be thinking of the truth and not of Socrates: agree with
me, if I seem to you to be speaking the truth; or if not, withstand
me might and main, that I may not deceive you as well as myself in
my enthusiasm, and like the bee, leave my sting in you before I
die.
And now let us proceed, he said. And first of all let me be sure
that I have in my mind what you were saying. Simmias, if I remember
rightly, has fears and misgivings whether the soul, although a
fairer and diviner thing than the body, being as she is in the form
of harmony, may not perish first. On the other hand, Cebes appeared
to grant that the soul was more lasting than the body, but he said
that no one could know whether the soul, after having worn out many
bodies, might not perish herself and leave her last body behind
her; and that this is death, which is the destruction not of the
body but of the soul, for in the body the work of destruction is
ever going on. Are not these, Simmias and Cebes, the points which
we have to consider?
They both agreed to this statement of them.
He proceeded: And did you deny the force of the whole preceding
argument, or of a part only?
Of a part only, they replied.
And what did you think, he said, of that part of the argument in
which we said that knowledge was recollection, and hence inferred
that the soul must have previously existed somewhere else before
she was enclosed in the body?
Cebes said that he had been wonderfully impressed by that part
of the argument, and that his conviction remained absolutely
unshaken. Simmias agreed, and added that he himself could hardly
imagine the possibility of his ever thinking differently.
But, rejoined Socrates, you will have to think differently, my
Theban friend, if you still maintain that harmony is a compound,
and that the soul is a harmony which is made out of strings set in
the frame of the body; for you will surely never allow yourself to
say that a harmony is prior to the elements which compose it.
Never, Socrates.
But do you not see that this is what you imply when you say that
the soul existed before she took the form and body of man, and was
made up of elements which as yet had no existence? For harmony is
not like the soul, as you suppose; but first the lyre, and the
strings, and the sounds exist in a state of discord, and then
harmony is made last of all, and perishes first. And how can such a
notion of the soul as this agree with the other?
Not at all, replied Simmias.
And yet, he said, there surely ought to be harmony in a
discourse of which harmony is the theme.
There ought, replied Simmias.
But there is no harmony, he said, in the two propositions that
knowledge is recollection, and that the soul is a harmony. Which of
them will you retain?
I think, he replied, that I have a much stronger faith,
Socrates, in the first of the two, which has been fully
demonstrated to me, than in the latter, which has not been
demonstrated at all, but rests only on probable and plausible
grounds; and is therefore believed by the many. I know too well
that these arguments from probabilities are impostors, and unless
great caution is observed in the use of them, they are apt to be
deceptive —in geometry, and in other things too. But the
doctrine of knowledge and recollection has been proven to me on
trustworthy grounds; and the proof was that the soul must have
existed before she came into the body, because to her belongs the
essence of which the very name implies existence. Having, as I am
convinced, rightly accepted this conclusion, and on sufficient
grounds, I must, as I suppose, cease to argue or allow others to
argue that the soul is a harmony.
Let me put the matter, Simmias, he said, in another point of
view: Do you imagine that a harmony or any other composition can be
in a state other than that of the elements, out of which it is
compounded?
Certainly not.
Or do or suffer anything other than they do or suffer?
He agreed.
Then a harmony does not, properly speaking, lead the parts or
elements which make up the harmony, but only follows them.
He assented.
For harmony cannot possibly have any motion, or sound, or other
quality which is opposed to its parts.
That would be impossible, he replied.
And does not the nature of every harmony depend upon the manner
in which the elements are harmonized?
I do not understand you, he said.
I mean to say that a harmony admits of degrees, and is more of a
harmony, and more completely a harmony, when more truly and fully
harmonized, to any extent which is possible; and less of a harmony,
and less completely a harmony, when less truly and fully
harmonized.
True.
But does the soul admit of degrees? or is one soul in the very
least degree more or less, or more or less completely, a soul than
another?
Not in the least.
Yet surely of two souls, one is said to have intelligence and
virtue, and to be good, and the other to have folly and vice, and
to be an evil soul: and this is said truly?
Yes, truly.
But what will those who maintain the soul to be a harmony say of
this presence of virtue and vice in the soul?—will they say
that here is another harmony, and another discord, and that the
virtuous soul is harmonized, and herself being a harmony has
another harmony within her, and that the vicious soul is
inharmonical and has no harmony within her?
I cannot tell, replied Simmias; but I suppose that something of
the sort would be asserted by those who say that the soul is a
harmony.
And we have already admitted that no soul is more a soul than
another; which is equivalent to admitting that harmony is not more
or less harmony, or more or less completely a harmony?
Quite true.
And that which is not more or less a harmony is not more or less
harmonized?
True.
And that which is not more or less harmonized cannot have more
or less of harmony, but only an equal harmony?
Yes, an equal harmony.
Then one soul not being more or less absolutely a soul than
another, is not more or less harmonized?
Exactly.
And therefore has neither more nor less of discord, nor yet of
harmony?
She has not.
And having neither more nor less of harmony or of discord, one
soul has no more vice or virtue than another, if vice be discord
and virtue harmony?
Not at all more.
Or speaking more correctly, Simmias, the soul, if she is a
harmony, will never have any vice; because a harmony, being
absolutely a harmony, has no part in the inharmonical.
No.
And therefore a soul which is absolutely a soul has no vice?
How can she have, if the previous argument holds?
Then, if all souls are equally by their nature souls, all souls
of all living creatures will be equally good?
I agree with you, Socrates, he said.
And can all this be true, think you? he said; for these are the
consequences which seem to follow from the assumption that the soul
is a harmony?
It cannot be true.
Once more, he said, what ruler is there of the elements of human
nature other than the soul, and especially the wise soul? Do you
know of any?
Indeed, I do not.
And is the soul in agreement with the affections of the body? or
is she at variance with them? For example, when the body is hot and
thirsty, does not the soul incline us against drinking? and when
the body is hungry, against eating? And this is only one instance
out of ten thousand of the opposition of the soul to the things of
the body.
Very true.
But we have already acknowledged that the soul, being a harmony,
can never utter a note at variance with the tensions and
relaxations and vibrations and other affections of the strings out
of which she is composed; she can only follow, she cannot lead
them?
It must be so, he replied.
And yet do we not now discover the soul to be doing the exact
opposite— leading the elements of which she is believed to be
composed; almost always opposing and coercing them in all sorts of
ways throughout life, sometimes more violently with the pains of
medicine and gymnastic; then again more gently; now threatening,
now admonishing the desires, passions, fears, as if talking to a
thing which is not herself, as Homer in the Odyssee represents
Odysseus doing in the words—
‘He beat his breast, and thus reproached his heart:
Endure, my heart; far worse hast thou endured!’
Do you think that Homer wrote this under the idea that the soul
is a harmony capable of being led by the affections of the body,
and not rather of a nature which should lead and master
them—herself a far diviner thing than any harmony?
Yes, Socrates, I quite think so.
Then, my friend, we can never be right in saying that the soul
is a harmony, for we should contradict the divine Homer, and
contradict ourselves.
True, he said.
Thus much, said Socrates, of Harmonia, your Theban goddess, who
has graciously yielded to us; but what shall I say, Cebes, to her
husband Cadmus, and how shall I make peace with him?
I think that you will discover a way of propitiating him, said
Cebes; I am sure that you have put the argument with Harmonia in a
manner that I could never have expected. For when Simmias was
mentioning his difficulty, I quite imagined that no answer could be
given to him, and therefore I was surprised at finding that his
argument could not sustain the first onset of yours, and not
impossibly the other, whom you call Cadmus, may share a similar
fate.
Nay, my good friend, said Socrates, let us not boast, lest some
evil eye should put to flight the word which I am about to speak.
That, however, may be left in the hands of those above, while I
draw near in Homeric fashion, and try the mettle of your words.
Here lies the point:—You want to have it proven to you that
the soul is imperishable and immortal, and the philosopher who is
confident in death appears to you to have but a vain and foolish
confidence, if he believes that he will fare better in the world
below than one who has led another sort of life, unless he can
prove this; and you say that the demonstration of the strength and
divinity of the soul, and of her existence prior to our becoming
men, does not necessarily imply her immortality. Admitting the soul
to be longlived, and to have known and done much in a former state,
still she is not on that account immortal; and her entrance into
the human form may be a sort of disease which is the beginning of
dissolution, and may at last, after the toils of life are over, end
in that which is called death. And whether the soul enters into the
body once only or many times, does not, as you say, make any
difference in the fears of individuals. For any man, who is not
devoid of sense, must fear, if he has no knowledge and can give no
account of the soul’s immortality. This, or something like
this, I suspect to be your notion, Cebes; and I designedly recur to
it in order that nothing may escape us, and that you may, if you
wish, add or subtract anything.
But, said Cebes, as far as I see at present, I have nothing to
add or subtract: I mean what you say that I mean.
Socrates paused awhile, and seemed to be absorbed in reflection.
At length he said: You are raising a tremendous question, Cebes,
involving the whole nature of generation and corruption, about
which, if you like, I will give you my own experience; and if
anything which I say is likely to avail towards the solution of
your difficulty you may make use of it.
I should very much like, said Cebes, to hear what you have to
say.
Then I will tell you, said Socrates. When I was young, Cebes, I
had a prodigious desire to know that department of philosophy which
is called the investigation of nature; to know the causes of
things, and why a thing is and is created or destroyed appeared to
me to be a lofty profession; and I was always agitating myself with
the consideration of questions such as these:—Is the growth
of animals the result of some decay which the hot and cold
principle contracts, as some have said? Is the blood the element
with which we think, or the air, or the fire? or perhaps nothing of
the kind— but the brain may be the originating power of the
perceptions of hearing and sight and smell, and memory and opinion
may come from them, and science may be based on memory and opinion
when they have attained fixity. And then I went on to examine the
corruption of them, and then to the things of heaven and earth, and
at last I concluded myself to be utterly and absolutely incapable
of these enquiries, as I will satisfactorily prove to you. For I
was fascinated by them to such a degree that my eyes grew blind to
things which I had seemed to myself, and also to others, to know
quite well; I forgot what I had before thought self-evident truths;
e.g. such a fact as that the growth of man is the result of eating
and drinking; for when by the digestion of food flesh is added to
flesh and bone to bone, and whenever there is an aggregation of
congenial elements, the lesser bulk becomes larger and the small
man great. Was not that a reasonable notion?
Yes, said Cebes, I think so.
Well; but let me tell you something more. There was a time when
I thought that I understood the meaning of greater and less pretty
well; and when I saw a great man standing by a little one, I
fancied that one was taller than the other by a head; or one horse
would appear to be greater than another horse: and still more
clearly did I seem to perceive that ten is two more than eight, and
that two cubits are more than one, because two is the double of
one.
And what is now your notion of such matters? said Cebes.
I should be far enough from imagining, he replied, that I knew
the cause of any of them, by heaven I should; for I cannot satisfy
myself that, when one is added to one, the one to which the
addition is made becomes two, or that the two units added together
make two by reason of the addition. I cannot understand how, when
separated from the other, each of them was one and not two, and
now, when they are brought together, the mere juxtaposition or
meeting of them should be the cause of their becoming two: neither
can I understand how the division of one is the way to make two;
for then a different cause would produce the same effect,—as
in the former instance the addition and juxtaposition of one to one
was the cause of two, in this the separation and subtraction of one
from the other would be the cause. Nor am I any longer satisfied
that I understand the reason why one or anything else is either
generated or destroyed or is at all, but I have in my mind some
confused notion of a new method, and can never admit the other.
Then I heard some one reading, as he said, from a book of
Anaxagoras, that mind was the disposer and cause of all, and I was
delighted at this notion, which appeared quite admirable, and I
said to myself: If mind is the disposer, mind will dispose all for
the best, and put each particular in the best place; and I argued
that if any one desired to find out the cause of the generation or
destruction or existence of anything, he must find out what state
of being or doing or suffering was best for that thing, and
therefore a man had only to consider the best for himself and
others, and then he would also know the worse, since the same
science comprehended both. And I rejoiced to think that I had found
in Anaxagoras a teacher of the causes of existence such as I
desired, and I imagined that he would tell me first whether the
earth is flat or round; and whichever was true, he would proceed to
explain the cause and the necessity of this being so, and then he
would teach me the nature of the best and show that this was best;
and if he said that the earth was in the centre, he would further
explain that this position was the best, and I should be satisfied
with the explanation given, and not want any other sort of cause.
And I thought that I would then go on and ask him about the sun and
moon and stars, and that he would explain to me their comparative
swiftness, and their returnings and various states, active and
passive, and how all of them were for the best. For I could not
imagine that when he spoke of mind as the disposer of them, he
would give any other account of their being as they are, except
that this was best; and I thought that when he had explained to me
in detail the cause of each and the cause of all, he would go on to
explain to me what was best for each and what was good for all.
These hopes I would not have sold for a large sum of money, and I
seized the books and read them as fast as I could in my eagerness
to know the better and the worse.
What expectations I had formed, and how grievously was I
disappointed! As I proceeded, I found my philosopher altogether
forsaking mind or any other principle of order, but having recourse
to air, and ether, and water, and other eccentricities. I might
compare him to a person who began by maintaining generally that
mind is the cause of the actions of Socrates, but who, when he
endeavoured to explain the causes of my several actions in detail,
went on to show that I sit here because my body is made up of bones
and muscles; and the bones, as he would say, are hard and have
joints which divide them, and the muscles are elastic, and they
cover the bones, which have also a covering or environment of flesh
and skin which contains them; and as the bones are lifted at their
joints by the contraction or relaxation of the muscles, I am able
to bend my limbs, and this is why I am sitting here in a curved
posture—that is what he would say, and he would have a
similar explanation of my talking to you, which he would attribute
to sound, and air, and hearing, and he would assign ten thousand
other causes of the same sort, forgetting to mention the true
cause, which is, that the Athenians have thought fit to condemn me,
and accordingly I have thought it better and more right to remain
here and undergo my sentence; for I am inclined to think that these
muscles and bones of mine would have gone off long ago to Megara or
Boeotia—by the dog they would, if they had been moved only by
their own idea of what was best, and if I had not chosen the better
and nobler part, instead of playing truant and running away, of
enduring any punishment which the state inflicts. There is surely a
strange confusion of causes and conditions in all this. It may be
said, indeed, that without bones and muscles and the other parts of
the body I cannot execute my purposes. But to say that I do as I do
because of them, and that this is the way in which mind acts, and
not from the choice of the best, is a very careless and idle mode
of speaking. I wonder that they cannot distinguish the cause from
the condition, which the many, feeling about in the dark, are
always mistaking and misnaming. And thus one man makes a vortex all
round and steadies the earth by the heaven; another gives the air
as a support to the earth, which is a sort of broad trough. Any
power which in arranging them as they are arranges them for the
best never enters into their minds; and instead of finding any
superior strength in it, they rather expect to discover another
Atlas of the world who is stronger and more everlasting and more
containing than the good;—of the obligatory and containing
power of the good they think nothing; and yet this is the principle
which I would fain learn if any one would teach me. But as I have
failed either to discover myself, or to learn of any one else, the
nature of the best, I will exhibit to you, if you like, what I have
found to be the second best mode of enquiring into the cause.
I should very much like to hear, he replied.
Socrates proceeded:—I thought that as I had failed in the
contemplation of true existence, I ought to be careful that I did
not lose the eye of my soul; as people may injure their bodily eye
by observing and gazing on the sun during an eclipse, unless they
take the precaution of only looking at the image reflected in the
water, or in some similar medium. So in my own case, I was afraid
that my soul might be blinded altogether if I looked at things with
my eyes or tried to apprehend them by the help of the senses. And I
thought that I had better have recourse to the world of mind and
seek there the truth of existence. I dare say that the simile is
not perfect— for I am very far from admitting that he who
contemplates existences through the medium of thought, sees them
only ‘through a glass darkly,’ any more than he who
considers them in action and operation. However, this was the
method which I adopted: I first assumed some principle which I
judged to be the strongest, and then I affirmed as true whatever
seemed to agree with this, whether relating to the cause or to
anything else; and that which disagreed I regarded as untrue. But I
should like to explain my meaning more clearly, as I do not think
that you as yet understand me.
No indeed, replied Cebes, not very well.
There is nothing new, he said, in what I am about to tell you;
but only what I have been always and everywhere repeating in the
previous discussion and on other occasions: I want to show you the
nature of that cause which has occupied my thoughts. I shall have
to go back to those familiar words which are in the mouth of every
one, and first of all assume that there is an absolute beauty and
goodness and greatness, and the like; grant me this, and I hope to
be able to show you the nature of the cause, and to prove the
immortality of the soul.
Cebes said: You may proceed at once with the proof, for I grant
you this.
Well, he said, then I should like to know whether you agree with
me in the next step; for I cannot help thinking, if there be
anything beautiful other than absolute beauty should there be such,
that it can be beautiful only in as far as it partakes of absolute
beauty—and I should say the same of everything. Do you agree
in this notion of the cause?
Yes, he said, I agree.
He proceeded: I know nothing and can understand nothing of any
other of those wise causes which are alleged; and if a person says
to me that the bloom of colour, or form, or any such thing is a
source of beauty, I leave all that, which is only confusing to me,
and simply and singly, and perhaps foolishly, hold and am assured
in my own mind that nothing makes a thing beautiful but the
presence and participation of beauty in whatever way or manner
obtained; for as to the manner I am uncertain, but I stoutly
contend that by beauty all beautiful things become beautiful. This
appears to me to be the safest answer which I can give, either to
myself or to another, and to this I cling, in the persuasion that
this principle will never be overthrown, and that to myself or to
any one who asks the question, I may safely reply, That by beauty
beautiful things become beautiful. Do you not agree with me?
I do.
And that by greatness only great things become great and greater
greater, and by smallness the less become less?
True.
Then if a person were to remark that A is taller by a head than
B, and B less by a head than A, you would refuse to admit his
statement, and would stoutly contend that what you mean is only
that the greater is greater by, and by reason of, greatness, and
the less is less only by, and by reason of, smallness; and thus you
would avoid the danger of saying that the greater is greater and
the less less by the measure of the head, which is the same in
both, and would also avoid the monstrous absurdity of supposing
that the greater man is greater by reason of the head, which is
small. You would be afraid to draw such an inference, would you
not?
Indeed, I should, said Cebes, laughing.
In like manner you would be afraid to say that ten exceeded
eight by, and by reason of, two; but would say by, and by reason
of, number; or you would say that two cubits exceed one cubit not
by a half, but by magnitude?-for there is the same liability to
error in all these cases.
Very true, he said.
Again, would you not be cautious of affirming that the addition
of one to one, or the division of one, is the cause of two? And you
would loudly asseverate that you know of no way in which anything
comes into existence except by participation in its own proper
essence, and consequently, as far as you know, the only cause of
two is the participation in duality—this is the way to make
two, and the participation in one is the way to make one. You would
say: I will let alone puzzles of division and addition—wiser
heads than mine may answer them; inexperienced as I am, and ready
to start, as the proverb says, at my own shadow, I cannot afford to
give up the sure ground of a principle. And if any one assails you
there, you would not mind him, or answer him, until you had seen
whether the consequences which follow agree with one another or
not, and when you are further required to give an explanation of
this principle, you would go on to assume a higher principle, and a
higher, until you found a resting-place in the best of the higher;
but you would not confuse the principle and the consequences in
your reasoning, like the Eristics—at least if you wanted to
discover real existence. Not that this confusion signifies to them,
who never care or think about the matter at all, for they have the
wit to be well pleased with themselves however great may be the
turmoil of their ideas. But you, if you are a philosopher, will
certainly do as I say.
What you say is most true, said Simmias and Cebes, both speaking
at once.
Echecrates: Yes, Phaedo; and I do not wonder at their assenting.
Any one who has the least sense will acknowledge the wonderful
clearness of Socrates’ reasoning.
Phaedo: Certainly, Echecrates; and such was the feeling of the
whole company at the time.
Echecrates: Yes, and equally of ourselves, who were not of the
company, and are now listening to your recital. But what
followed?
Phaedo: After all this had been admitted, and they had that
ideas exist, and that other things participate in them and derive
their names from them, Socrates, if I remember rightly,
said:—
This is your way of speaking; and yet when you say that Simmias
is greater than Socrates and less than Phaedo, do you not predicate
of Simmias both greatness and smallness?
Yes, I do.
But still you allow that Simmias does not really exceed
Socrates, as the words may seem to imply, because he is Simmias,
but by reason of the size which he has; just as Simmias does not
exceed Socrates because he is Simmias, any more than because
Socrates is Socrates, but because he has smallness when compared
with the greatness of Simmias?
True.
And if Phaedo exceeds him in size, this is not because Phaedo is
Phaedo, but because Phaedo has greatness relatively to Simmias, who
is comparatively smaller?
That is true.
And therefore Simmias is said to be great, and is also said to
be small, because he is in a mean between them, exceeding the
smallness of the one by his greatness, and allowing the greatness
of the other to exceed his smallness. He added, laughing, I am
speaking like a book, but I believe that what I am saying is
true.
Simmias assented.
I speak as I do because I want you to agree with me in thinking,
not only that absolute greatness will never be great and also
small, but that greatness in us or in the concrete will never admit
the small or admit of being exceeded: instead of this, one of two
things will happen, either the greater will fly or retire before
the opposite, which is the less, or at the approach of the less has
already ceased to exist; but will not, if allowing or admitting of
smallness, be changed by that; even as I, having received and
admitted smallness when compared with Simmias, remain just as I
was, and am the same small person. And as the idea of greatness
cannot condescend ever to be or become small, in like manner the
smallness in us cannot be or become great; nor can any other
opposite which remains the same ever be or become its own opposite,
but either passes away or perishes in the change.
That, replied Cebes, is quite my notion.
Hereupon one of the company, though I do not exactly remember
which of them, said: In heaven’s name, is not this the direct
contrary of what was admitted before—that out of the greater
came the less and out of the less the greater, and that opposites
were simply generated from opposites; but now this principle seems
to be utterly denied.
Socrates inclined his head to the speaker and listened. I like
your courage, he said, in reminding us of this. But you do not
observe that there is a difference in the two cases. For then we
were speaking of opposites in the concrete, and now of the
essential opposite which, as is affirmed, neither in us nor in
nature can ever be at variance with itself: then, my friend, we
were speaking of things in which opposites are inherent and which
are called after them, but now about the opposites which are
inherent in them and which give their name to them; and these
essential opposites will never, as we maintain, admit of generation
into or out of one another. At the same time, turning to Cebes, he
said: Are you at all disconcerted, Cebes, at our friend’s
objection?
No, I do not feel so, said Cebes; and yet I cannot deny that I
am often disturbed by objections.
Then we are agreed after all, said Socrates, that the opposite
will never in any case be opposed to itself?
To that we are quite agreed, he replied.
Yet once more let me ask you to consider the question from
another point of view, and see whether you agree with
me:—There is a thing which you term heat, and another thing
which you term cold?
Certainly.
But are they the same as fire and snow?
Most assuredly not.
Heat is a thing different from fire, and cold is not the same
with snow?
Yes.
And yet you will surely admit, that when snow, as was before
said, is under the influence of heat, they will not remain snow and
heat; but at the advance of the heat, the snow will either retire
or perish?
Very true, he replied.
And the fire too at the advance of the cold will either retire
or perish; and when the fire is under the influence of the cold,
they will not remain as before, fire and cold.
That is true, he said.
And in some cases the name of the idea is not only attached to
the idea in an eternal connection, but anything else which, not
being the idea, exists only in the form of the idea, may also lay
claim to it. I will try to make this clearer by an
example:—The odd number is always called by the name of
odd?
Very true.
But is this the only thing which is called odd? Are there not
other things which have their own name, and yet are called odd,
because, although not the same as oddness, they are never without
oddness?—that is what I mean to ask—whether numbers
such as the number three are not of the class of odd. And there are
many other examples: would you not say, for example, that three may
be called by its proper name, and also be called odd, which is not
the same with three? and this may be said not only of three but
also of five, and of every alternate number—each of them
without being oddness is odd, and in the same way two and four, and
the other series of alternate numbers, has every number even,
without being evenness. Do you agree?
Of course.
Then now mark the point at which I am aiming:—not only do
essential opposites exclude one another, but also concrete things,
which, although not in themselves opposed, contain opposites;
these, I say, likewise reject the idea which is opposed to that
which is contained in them, and when it approaches them they either
perish or withdraw. For example; Will not the number three endure
annihilation or anything sooner than be converted into an even
number, while remaining three?
Very true, said Cebes.
And yet, he said, the number two is certainly not opposed to the
number three?
It is not.
Then not only do opposite ideas repel the advance of one
another, but also there are other natures which repel the approach
of opposites.
Very true, he said.
Suppose, he said, that we endeavour, if possible, to determine
what these are.
By all means.
Are they not, Cebes, such as compel the things of which they
have possession, not only to take their own form, but also the form
of some opposite?
What do you mean?
I mean, as I was just now saying, and as I am sure that you
know, that those things which are possessed by the number three
must not only be three in number, but must also be odd.
Quite true.
And on this oddness, of which the number three has the impress,
the opposite idea will never intrude?
No.
And this impress was given by the odd principle?
Yes.
And to the odd is opposed the even?
True.
Then the idea of the even number will never arrive at three?
No.
Then three has no part in the even?
None.
Then the triad or number three is uneven?
Very true.
To return then to my distinction of natures which are not
opposed, and yet do not admit opposites—as, in the instance
given, three, although not opposed to the even, does not any the
more admit of the even, but always brings the opposite into play on
the other side; or as two does not receive the odd, or fire the
cold—from these examples (and there are many more of them)
perhaps you may be able to arrive at the general conclusion, that
not only opposites will not receive opposites, but also that
nothing which brings the opposite will admit the opposite of that
which it brings, in that to which it is brought. And here let me
recapitulate—for there is no harm in repetition. The number
five will not admit the nature of the even, any more than ten,
which is the double of five, will admit the nature of the odd. The
double has another opposite, and is not strictly opposed to the
odd, but nevertheless rejects the odd altogether. Nor again will
parts in the ratio 3:2, nor any fraction in which there is a half,
nor again in which there is a third, admit the notion of the whole,
although they are not opposed to the whole: You will agree?
Yes, he said, I entirely agree and go along with you in
that.
And now, he said, let us begin again; and do not you answer my
question in the words in which I ask it: let me have not the old
safe answer of which I spoke at first, but another equally safe, of
which the truth will be inferred by you from what has been just
said. I mean that if any one asks you ‘what that is, of which
the inherence makes the body hot,’ you will reply not heat
(this is what I call the safe and stupid answer), but fire, a far
superior answer, which we are now in a condition to give. Or if any
one asks you ‘why a body is diseased,’ you will not say
from disease, but from fever; and instead of saying that oddness is
the cause of odd numbers, you will say that the monad is the cause
of them: and so of things in general, as I dare say that you will
understand sufficiently without my adducing any further
examples.
Yes, he said, I quite understand you.
Tell me, then, what is that of which the inherence will render
the body alive?
The soul, he replied.
And is this always the case?
Yes, he said, of course.
Then whatever the soul possesses, to that she comes bearing
life?
Yes, certainly.
And is there any opposite to life?
There is, he said.
And what is that?
Death.
Then the soul, as has been acknowledged, will never receive the
opposite of what she brings.
Impossible, replied Cebes.
And now, he said, what did we just now call that principle which
repels the even?
The odd.
And that principle which repels the musical, or the just?
The unmusical, he said, and the unjust.
And what do we call the principle which does not admit of
death?
The immortal, he said.
And does the soul admit of death?
No.
Then the soul is immortal?
Yes, he said.
And may we say that this has been proven?
Yes, abundantly proven, Socrates, he replied.
Supposing that the odd were imperishable, must not three be
imperishable?
Of course.
And if that which is cold were imperishable, when the warm
principle came attacking the snow, must not the snow have retired
whole and unmelted—for it could never have perished, nor
could it have remained and admitted the heat?
True, he said.
Again, if the uncooling or warm principle were imperishable, the
fire when assailed by cold would not have perished or have been
extinguished, but would have gone away unaffected?
Certainly, he said.
And the same may be said of the immortal: if the immortal is
also imperishable, the soul when attacked by death cannot perish;
for the preceding argument shows that the soul will not admit of
death, or ever be dead, any more than three or the odd number will
admit of the even, or fire or the heat in the fire, of the cold.
Yet a person may say: ‘But although the odd will not become
even at the approach of the even, why may not the odd perish and
the even take the place of the odd?’ Now to him who makes
this objection, we cannot answer that the odd principle is
imperishable; for this has not been acknowledged, but if this had
been acknowledged, there would have been no difficulty in
contending that at the approach of the even the odd principle and
the number three took their departure; and the same argument would
have held good of fire and heat and any other thing.
Very true.
And the same may be said of the immortal: if the immortal is
also imperishable, then the soul will be imperishable as well as
immortal; but if not, some other proof of her imperishableness will
have to be given.
No other proof is needed, he said; for if the immortal, being
eternal, is liable to perish, then nothing is imperishable.
Yes, replied Socrates, and yet all men will agree that God, and
the essential form of life, and the immortal in general, will never
perish.
Yes, all men, he said—that is true; and what is more,
gods, if I am not mistaken, as well as men.
Seeing then that the immortal is indestructible, must not the
soul, if she is immortal, be also imperishable?
Most certainly.
Then when death attacks a man, the mortal portion of him may be
supposed to die, but the immortal retires at the approach of death
and is preserved safe and sound?
True.
Then, Cebes, beyond question, the soul is immortal and
imperishable, and our souls will truly exist in another world!
I am convinced, Socrates, said Cebes, and have nothing more to
object; but if my friend Simmias, or any one else, has any further
objection to make, he had better speak out, and not keep silence,
since I do not know to what other season he can defer the
discussion, if there is anything which he wants to say or to have
said.
But I have nothing more to say, replied Simmias; nor can I see
any reason for doubt after what has been said. But I still feel and
cannot help feeling uncertain in my own mind, when I think of the
greatness of the subject and the feebleness of man.
Yes, Simmias, replied Socrates, that is well said: and I may add
that first principles, even if they appear certain, should be
carefully considered; and when they are satisfactorily ascertained,
then, with a sort of hesitating confidence in human reason, you
may, I think, follow the course of the argument; and if that be
plain and clear, there will be no need for any further enquiry.
Very true.
But then, O my friends, he said, if the soul is really immortal,
what care should be taken of her, not only in respect of the
portion of time which is called life, but of eternity! And the
danger of neglecting her from this point of view does indeed appear
to be awful. If death had only been the end of all, the wicked
would have had a good bargain in dying, for they would have been
happily quit not only of their body, but of their own evil together
with their souls. But now, inasmuch as the soul is manifestly
immortal, there is no release or salvation from evil except the
attainment of the highest virtue and wisdom. For the soul when on
her progress to the world below takes nothing with her but nurture
and education; and these are said greatly to benefit or greatly to
injure the departed, at the very beginning of his journey
thither.
For after death, as they say, the genius of each individual, to
whom he belonged in life, leads him to a certain place in which the
dead are gathered together, whence after judgment has been given
they pass into the world below, following the guide, who is
appointed to conduct them from this world to the other: and when
they have there received their due and remained their time, another
guide brings them back again after many revolutions of ages. Now
this way to the other world is not, as Aeschylus says in the
Telephus, a single and straight path—if that were so no guide
would be needed, for no one could miss it; but there are many
partings of the road, and windings, as I infer from the rites and
sacrifices which are offered to the gods below in places where
three ways meet on earth. The wise and orderly soul follows in the
straight path and is conscious of her surroundings; but the soul
which desires the body, and which, as I was relating before, has
long been fluttering about the lifeless frame and the world of
sight, is after many struggles and many sufferings hardly and with
violence carried away by her attendant genius, and when she arrives
at the place where the other souls are gathered, if she be impure
and have done impure deeds, whether foul murders or other crimes
which are the brothers of these, and the works of brothers in
crime—from that soul every one flees and turns away; no one
will be her companion, no one her guide, but alone she wanders in
extremity of evil until certain times are fulfilled, and when they
are fulfilled, she is borne irresistibly to her own fitting
habitation; as every pure and just soul which has passed through
life in the company and under the guidance of the gods has also her
own proper home.
Now the earth has divers wonderful regions, and is indeed in
nature and extent very unlike the notions of geographers, as I
believe on the authority of one who shall be nameless.
What do you mean, Socrates? said Simmias. I have myself heard
many descriptions of the earth, but I do not know, and I should
very much like to know, in which of these you put faith.
And I, Simmias, replied Socrates, if I had the art of Glaucus
would tell you; although I know not that the art of Glaucus could
prove the truth of my tale, which I myself should never be able to
prove, and even if I could, I fear, Simmias, that my life would
come to an end before the argument was completed. I may describe to
you, however, the form and regions of the earth according to my
conception of them.
That, said Simmias, will be enough.
Well, then, he said, my conviction is, that the earth is a round
body in the centre of the heavens, and therefore has no need of air
or any similar force to be a support, but is kept there and
hindered from falling or inclining any way by the equability of the
surrounding heaven and by her own equipoise. For that which, being
in equipoise, is in the centre of that which is equably diffused,
will not incline any way in any degree, but will always remain in
the same state and not deviate. And this is my first notion.
Which is surely a correct one, said Simmias.
Also I believe that the earth is very vast, and that we who
dwell in the region extending from the river Phasis to the Pillars
of Heracles inhabit a small portion only about the sea, like ants
or frogs about a marsh, and that there are other inhabitants of
many other like places; for everywhere on the face of the earth
there are hollows of various forms and sizes, into which the water
and the mist and the lower air collect. But the true earth is pure
and situated in the pure heaven—there are the stars also; and
it is the heaven which is commonly spoken of by us as the ether,
and of which our own earth is the sediment gathering in the hollows
beneath. But we who live in these hollows are deceived into the
notion that we are dwelling above on the surface of the earth;
which is just as if a creature who was at the bottom of the sea
were to fancy that he was on the surface of the water, and that the
sea was the heaven through which he saw the sun and the other
stars, he having never come to the surface by reason of his
feebleness and sluggishness, and having never lifted up his head
and seen, nor ever heard from one who had seen, how much purer and
fairer the world above is than his own. And such is exactly our
case: for we are dwelling in a hollow of the earth, and fancy that
we are on the surface; and the air we call the heaven, in which we
imagine that the stars move. But the fact is, that owing to our
feebleness and sluggishness we are prevented from reaching the
surface of the air: for if any man could arrive at the exterior
limit, or take the wings of a bird and come to the top, then like a
fish who puts his head out of the water and sees this world, he
would see a world beyond; and, if the nature of man could sustain
the sight, he would acknowledge that this other world was the place
of the true heaven and the true light and the true earth. For our
earth, and the stones, and the entire region which surrounds us,
are spoilt and corroded, as in the sea all things are corroded by
the brine, neither is there any noble or perfect growth, but
caverns only, and sand, and an endless slough of mud: and even the
shore is not to be compared to the fairer sights of this world. And
still less is this our world to be compared with the other. Of that
upper earth which is under the heaven, I can tell you a charming
tale, Simmias, which is well worth hearing.
And we, Socrates, replied Simmias, shall be charmed to listen to
you.
The tale, my friend, he said, is as follows:—In the first
place, the earth, when looked at from above, is in appearance
streaked like one of those balls which have leather coverings in
twelve pieces, and is decked with various colours, of which the
colours used by painters on earth are in a manner samples. But
there the whole earth is made up of them, and they are brighter far
and clearer than ours; there is a purple of wonderful lustre, also
the radiance of gold, and the white which is in the earth is whiter
than any chalk or snow. Of these and other colours the earth is
made up, and they are more in number and fairer than the eye of man
has ever seen; the very hollows (of which I was speaking) filled
with air and water have a colour of their own, and are seen like
light gleaming amid the diversity of the other colours, so that the
whole presents a single and continuous appearance of variety in
unity. And in this fair region everything that grows—trees,
and flowers, and fruits—are in a like degree fairer than any
here; and there are hills, having stones in them in a like degree
smoother, and more transparent, and fairer in colour than our
highly-valued emeralds and sardonyxes and jaspers, and other gems,
which are but minute fragments of them: for there all the stones
are like our precious stones, and fairer still (compare Republic).
The reason is, that they are pure, and not, like our precious
stones, infected or corroded by the corrupt briny elements which
coagulate among us, and which breed foulness and disease both in
earth and stones, as well as in animals and plants. They are the
jewels of the upper earth, which also shines with gold and silver
and the like, and they are set in the light of day and are large
and abundant and in all places, making the earth a sight to gladden
the beholder’s eye. And there are animals and men, some in a
middle region, others dwelling about the air as we dwell about the
sea; others in islands which the air flows round, near the
continent: and in a word, the air is used by them as the water and
the sea are by us, and the ether is to them what the air is to us.
Moreover, the temperament of their seasons is such that they have
no disease, and live much longer than we do, and have sight and
hearing and smell, and all the other senses, in far greater
perfection, in the same proportion that air is purer than water or
the ether than air. Also they have temples and sacred places in
which the gods really dwell, and they hear their voices and receive
their answers, and are conscious of them and hold converse with
them, and they see the sun, moon, and stars as they truly are, and
their other blessedness is of a piece with this.
Such is the nature of the whole earth, and of the things which
are around the earth; and there are divers regions in the hollows
on the face of the globe everywhere, some of them deeper and more
extended than that which we inhabit, others deeper but with a
narrower opening than ours, and some are shallower and also wider.
All have numerous perforations, and there are passages broad and
narrow in the interior of the earth, connecting them with one
another; and there flows out of and into them, as into basins, a
vast tide of water, and huge subterranean streams of perennial
rivers, and springs hot and cold, and a great fire, and great
rivers of fire, and streams of liquid mud, thin or thick (like the
rivers of mud in Sicily, and the lava streams which follow them),
and the regions about which they happen to flow are filled up with
them. And there is a swinging or see-saw in the interior of the
earth which moves all this up and down, and is due to the following
cause:—There is a chasm which is the vastest of them all, and
pierces right through the whole earth; this is that chasm which
Homer describes in the words,—
‘Far off, where is the inmost depth beneath the
earth;’
and which he in other places, and many other poets, have called
Tartarus. And the see-saw is caused by the streams flowing into and
out of this chasm, and they each have the nature of the soil
through which they flow. And the reason why the streams are always
flowing in and out, is that the watery element has no bed or
bottom, but is swinging and surging up and down, and the
surrounding wind and air do the same; they follow the water up and
down, hither and thither, over the earth—just as in the act
of respiration the air is always in process of inhalation and
exhalation;—and the wind swinging with the water in and out
produces fearful and irresistible blasts: when the waters retire
with a rush into the lower parts of the earth, as they are called,
they flow through the earth in those regions, and fill them up like
water raised by a pump, and then when they leave those regions and
rush back hither, they again fill the hollows here, and when these
are filled, flow through subterranean channels and find their way
to their several places, forming seas, and lakes, and rivers, and
springs. Thence they again enter the earth, some of them making a
long circuit into many lands, others going to a few places and not
so distant; and again fall into Tartarus, some at a point a good
deal lower than that at which they rose, and others not much lower,
but all in some degree lower than the point from which they came.
And some burst forth again on the opposite side, and some on the
same side, and some wind round the earth with one or many folds
like the coils of a serpent, and descend as far as they can, but
always return and fall into the chasm. The rivers flowing in either
direction can descend only to the centre and no further, for
opposite to the rivers is a precipice.
Now these rivers are many, and mighty, and diverse, and there
are four principal ones, of which the greatest and outermost is
that called Oceanus, which flows round the earth in a circle; and
in the opposite direction flows Acheron, which passes under the
earth through desert places into the Acherusian lake: this is the
lake to the shores of which the souls of the many go when they are
dead, and after waiting an appointed time, which is to some a
longer and to some a shorter time, they are sent back to be born
again as animals. The third river passes out between the two, and
near the place of outlet pours into a vast region of fire, and
forms a lake larger than the Mediterranean Sea, boiling with water
and mud; and proceeding muddy and turbid, and winding about the
earth, comes, among other places, to the extremities of the
Acherusian Lake, but mingles not with the waters of the lake, and
after making many coils about the earth plunges into Tartarus at a
deeper level. This is that Pyriphlegethon, as the stream is called,
which throws up jets of fire in different parts of the earth. The
fourth river goes out on the opposite side, and falls first of all
into a wild and savage region, which is all of a dark-blue colour,
like lapis lazuli; and this is that river which is called the
Stygian river, and falls into and forms the Lake Styx, and after
falling into the lake and receiving strange powers in the waters,
passes under the earth, winding round in the opposite direction,
and comes near the Acherusian lake from the opposite side to
Pyriphlegethon. And the water of this river too mingles with no
other, but flows round in a circle and falls into Tartarus over
against Pyriphlegethon; and the name of the river, as the poets
say, is Cocytus.
Such is the nature of the other world; and when the dead arrive
at the place to which the genius of each severally guides them,
first of all, they have sentence passed upon them, as they have
lived well and piously or not. And those who appear to have lived
neither well nor ill, go to the river Acheron, and embarking in any
vessels which they may find, are carried in them to the lake, and
there they dwell and are purified of their evil deeds, and having
suffered the penalty of the wrongs which they have done to others,
they are absolved, and receive the rewards of their good deeds,
each of them according to his deserts. But those who appear to be
incurable by reason of the greatness of their crimes—who have
committed many and terrible deeds of sacrilege, murders foul and
violent, or the like—such are hurled into Tartarus which is
their suitable destiny, and they never come out. Those again who
have committed crimes, which, although great, are not
irremediable—who in a moment of anger, for example, have done
violence to a father or a mother, and have repented for the
remainder of their lives, or, who have taken the life of another
under the like extenuating circumstances—these are plunged
into Tartarus, the pains of which they are compelled to undergo for
a year, but at the end of the year the wave casts them
forth—mere homicides by way of Cocytus, parricides and
matricides by Pyriphlegethon—and they are borne to the
Acherusian lake, and there they lift up their voices and call upon
the victims whom they have slain or wronged, to have pity on them,
and to be kind to them, and let them come out into the lake. And if
they prevail, then they come forth and cease from their troubles;
but if not, they are carried back again into Tartarus and from
thence into the rivers unceasingly, until they obtain mercy from
those whom they have wronged: for that is the sentence inflicted
upon them by their judges. Those too who have been pre-eminent for
holiness of life are released from this earthly prison, and go to
their pure home which is above, and dwell in the purer earth; and
of these, such as have duly purified themselves with philosophy
live henceforth altogether without the body, in mansions fairer
still which may not be described, and of which the time would fail
me to tell.
Wherefore, Simmias, seeing all these things, what ought not we
to do that we may obtain virtue and wisdom in this life? Fair is
the prize, and the hope great!
A man of sense ought not to say, nor will I be very confident,
that the description which I have given of the soul and her
mansions is exactly true. But I do say that, inasmuch as the soul
is shown to be immortal, he may venture to think, not improperly or
unworthily, that something of the kind is true. The venture is a
glorious one, and he ought to comfort himself with words like
these, which is the reason why I lengthen out the tale. Wherefore,
I say, let a man be of good cheer about his soul, who having cast
away the pleasures and ornaments of the body as alien to him and
working harm rather than good, has sought after the pleasures of
knowledge; and has arrayed the soul, not in some foreign attire,
but in her own proper jewels, temperance, and justice, and courage,
and nobility, and truth—in these adorned she is ready to go
on her journey to the world below, when her hour comes. You,
Simmias and Cebes, and all other men, will depart at some time or
other. Me already, as the tragic poet would say, the voice of fate
calls. Soon I must drink the poison; and I think that I had better
repair to the bath first, in order that the women may not have the
trouble of washing my body after I am dead.
When he had done speaking, Crito said: And have you any commands
for us, Socrates—anything to say about your children, or any
other matter in which we can serve you?
Nothing particular, Crito, he replied: only, as I have always
told you, take care of yourselves; that is a service which you may
be ever rendering to me and mine and to all of us, whether you
promise to do so or not. But if you have no thought for yourselves,
and care not to walk according to the rule which I have prescribed
for you, not now for the first time, however much you may profess
or promise at the moment, it will be of no avail.
We will do our best, said Crito: And in what way shall we bury
you?
In any way that you like; but you must get hold of me, and take
care that I do not run away from you. Then he turned to us, and
added with a smile:—I cannot make Crito believe that I am the
same Socrates who have been talking and conducting the argument; he
fancies that I am the other Socrates whom he will soon see, a dead
body—and he asks, How shall he bury me? And though I have
spoken many words in the endeavour to show that when I have drunk
the poison I shall leave you and go to the joys of the
blessed,— these words of mine, with which I was comforting
you and myself, have had, as I perceive, no effect upon Crito. And
therefore I want you to be surety for me to him now, as at the
trial he was surety to the judges for me: but let the promise be of
another sort; for he was surety for me to the judges that I would
remain, and you must be my surety to him that I shall not remain,
but go away and depart; and then he will suffer less at my death,
and not be grieved when he sees my body being burned or buried. I
would not have him sorrow at my hard lot, or say at the burial,
Thus we lay out Socrates, or, Thus we follow him to the grave or
bury him; for false words are not only evil in themselves, but they
infect the soul with evil. Be of good cheer, then, my dear Crito,
and say that you are burying my body only, and do with that
whatever is usual, and what you think best.
When he had spoken these words, he arose and went into a chamber
to bathe; Crito followed him and told us to wait. So we remained
behind, talking and thinking of the subject of discourse, and also
of the greatness of our sorrow; he was like a father of whom we
were being bereaved, and we were about to pass the rest of our
lives as orphans. When he had taken the bath his children were
brought to him—(he had two young sons and an elder one); and
the women of his family also came, and he talked to them and gave
them a few directions in the presence of Crito; then he dismissed
them and returned to us.
Now the hour of sunset was near, for a good deal of time had
passed while he was within. When he came out, he sat down with us
again after his bath, but not much was said. Soon the jailer, who
was the servant of the Eleven, entered and stood by him,
saying:—To you, Socrates, whom I know to be the noblest and
gentlest and best of all who ever came to this place, I will not
impute the angry feelings of other men, who rage and swear at me,
when, in obedience to the authorities, I bid them drink the
poison—indeed, I am sure that you will not be angry with me;
for others, as you are aware, and not I, are to blame. And so fare
you well, and try to bear lightly what must needs be—you know
my errand. Then bursting into tears he turned away and went
out.
Socrates looked at him and said: I return your good wishes, and
will do as you bid. Then turning to us, he said, How charming the
man is: since I have been in prison he has always been coming to
see me, and at times he would talk to me, and was as good to me as
could be, and now see how generously he sorrows on my account. We
must do as he says, Crito; and therefore let the cup be brought, if
the poison is prepared: if not, let the attendant prepare some.
Yet, said Crito, the sun is still upon the hill-tops, and I know
that many a one has taken the draught late, and after the
announcement has been made to him, he has eaten and drunk, and
enjoyed the society of his beloved; do not hurry—there is
time enough.
Socrates said: Yes, Crito, and they of whom you speak are right
in so acting, for they think that they will be gainers by the
delay; but I am right in not following their example, for I do not
think that I should gain anything by drinking the poison a little
later; I should only be ridiculous in my own eyes for sparing and
saving a life which is already forfeit. Please then to do as I say,
and not to refuse me.
Crito made a sign to the servant, who was standing by; and he
went out, and having been absent for some time, returned with the
jailer carrying the cup of poison. Socrates said: You, my good
friend, who are experienced in these matters, shall give me
directions how I am to proceed. The man answered: You have only to
walk about until your legs are heavy, and then to lie down, and the
poison will act. At the same time he handed the cup to Socrates,
who in the easiest and gentlest manner, without the least fear or
change of colour or feature, looking at the man with all his eyes,
Echecrates, as his manner was, took the cup and said: What do you
say about making a libation out of this cup to any god? May I, or
not? The man answered: We only prepare, Socrates, just so much as
we deem enough. I understand, he said: but I may and must ask the
gods to prosper my journey from this to the other world—even
so—and so be it according to my prayer. Then raising the cup
to his lips, quite readily and cheerfully he drank off the poison.
And hitherto most of us had been able to control our sorrow; but
now when we saw him drinking, and saw too that he had finished the
draught, we could no longer forbear, and in spite of myself my own
tears were flowing fast; so that I covered my face and wept, not
for him, but at the thought of my own calamity in having to part
from such a friend. Nor was I the first; for Crito, when he found
himself unable to restrain his tears, had got up, and I followed;
and at that moment, Apollodorus, who had been weeping all the time,
broke out in a loud and passionate cry which made cowards of us
all. Socrates alone retained his calmness: What is this strange
outcry? he said. I sent away the women mainly in order that they
might not misbehave in this way, for I have been told that a man
should die in peace. Be quiet, then, and have patience. When we
heard his words we were ashamed, and refrained our tears; and he
walked about until, as he said, his legs began to fail, and then he
lay on his back, according to the directions, and the man who gave
him the poison now and then looked at his feet and legs; and after
a while he pressed his foot hard, and asked him if he could feel;
and he said, No; and then his leg, and so upwards and upwards, and
showed us that he was cold and stiff. And he felt them himself, and
said: When the poison reaches the heart, that will be the end. He
was beginning to grow cold about the groin, when he uncovered his
face, for he had covered himself up, and said—they were his
last words—he said: Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will
you remember to pay the debt? The debt shall be paid, said Crito;
is there anything else? There was no answer to this question; but
in a minute or two a movement was heard, and the attendants
uncovered him; his eyes were set, and Crito closed his eyes and
mouth.
Such was the end, Echecrates, of our friend; concerning whom I
may truly say, that of all the men of his time whom I have known,
he was the wisest and justest and best. |